To wonder how much longer it will be before all teachers quit?

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Been called a bitch and screamed at today. Kids are making no progress because 90% of the leason is dedicated to bad behaviour.
My detentions have been taken off the system to make behaviour look better.
Why would anyone do this job?

Never heard of teachertapp. Seems like another place for teacher who moan will go to.

I might sound like an ass but I think part of this is parental responsibility too. I know the cost of living is draining us all, but children do deserve and need small breaks to reset. A trip to the beach, a local animal park etc.

My school used to take us on the fields behind the school where there were cows and stuff so we could have a change of scenery. We did so much more learning that way!

I'm wondering as we become more dependant on social media and such, that's having an impact on things too indirectly.

Then you’ll also appreciate you can’t always capture the attention of the whole classroom. Wind, rain, sun, lesson time all affect the classes, as well as being close to the holidays etc.

We are trying our best, honestly!

School are in a financial mess. PFI schools are an absolute joke that nobody seems to talk about.

If all good teachers just leave because things have got tougher and tougher there will be nobody left to teacher.

Something has got to give. Finding a new career is not the answer to the education crisis.

I wonder if the Tory government are hoping that the schooling system does collapse and then their privately educated children will come out on top.

My Scottish equivalent is on £10k more than me.

I think we’ll find Labour will be exactly the same as the tories. No difference except for a few words.

I left teaching a couple of years ago after 12 years (I was a middle manager). One of the reasons for poor behaviour and awful schools is the level of inadequate, egotistical teachers who then turn in to SLT. It doesn’t matter how rubbish you are, if the face fits then you’ll do ok!

And what is worse? Moaning about really shitty working conditions and trying to promote change. Or moaning about people moaning?

I haven’t moaned about people moaning. I’m just stating the obvious.

DP is working towards leaving teaching- deprived northern secondary school, feels desperately sad for those pupils who want to learn and do well because they are simply not a priority. Extremely difficult behavioural issues, despicable funding cuts, never ending demands of the curriculum and parents who are often just as bad if not worse than their kids for entitled terrible bad attitudes all take precedence over the nice ones.

It’s frightening to think parts of our society are this broken, god help anyone starting out in that career- those considering teaching think very long and hard if the stress and emotional toll is worth the very average salary. The holidays are necessary to recover from the hell you’re subjected to 7.30-5pm during term time.

Not true. There is a colour difference too ;)

I really hope you are wrong and Labour will fix the education system.

I am not going to hold my breath.

Lack of classroom control is sometimes down to poor quality teaching but it is more often....
Lack of support from parents... no my child is not to do detention etc
Lack of systems in place in a school. Little or no sanction for things like swearing at a teacher
The teacher being under so much pressure to get through the work that they turn a blind eye to low level disruption and then it escalates .... and then there's no system in place... and then there's no support from parents.
And so it goes on.

Respectfully, your disrespect towards teachers is probably part of the problem.

If parents are teaching their kids they can disrespect teachers, their kids are going to follow. These teachers deal with your kids 5 days a week, hours a day put their entire soul into trying to teach your children and then you complain when they "moan" because they don't like being spoken to like shit?

Not allowed to survey teachers now? It's not a discussion forum and no teacher would know how other teachers vote.

The government and the media use Teacher Tapp for data. It asks different questions every day, just so happens yesterday was about burnout.

Unfortunately, despite the attempts all the parties make, they are all the same. They’ll be no difference, it’ll just be presented in a different way.

Suggest you read my posts.

Love this, feel the same, so do many of my colleagues.

If I am deluded enough to stay in teaching then I am deluded enough to live in hope of an education reform!

Of course, as you are a teacher yourself, you can join and also vote every day.

You can love a job and feel burnt out.

I’d love to see a change in science - the school I’m at finished teaching the maths and English content in September for year 11, yet Bio, Chem and Phys wasn’t finishing time for the mocks last week. Some much content in such a compressed way is not good for the majority of students.

I do worry that I see so many threads on here of teachers slagging their job off.
Maybe the children are picking up on your negative vibes and not engaging fully with you because of it

FFS. The OP has been sworn at, called names and screamed at in her work place by the people she is attempting to help and support. And it’s her fault that has happened?

you’re one of the reasons we are leaving in greater numbers than we can be recruited and trained: you don’t see why children should have to behave. Without good behaviour, there is little teaching and even less learning. Tell your children to respect their teachers - regardless of how good/bad/interesting/funny/entertaining/caring they may be. Send your children to school with the expectation they learn and that they are responsible for their learning first and foremost

Preaching to the converted. I am a science teacher too. We have just finished the content. Has the content been taught in enough depth? Of course not.

Science is only a core subject when it suits SLT 😉

That's the real issue.

Students that misbehave typically come from homes where education is not valued. How can you make a child care about their education and the education of others when it is not valued at home? Some parents tell their children to not listen to the teacher or send them in saying "my mum thinks you are a cunt too..."

Sadly I don't think there is a quick fix for this.

In the case of several male students , they also watch porn whilst masturbating IN THE MAIN LIBRARY because the WiFi is better there than their halls of residence. They cannot see why there would be a problem with this.

I work in Education HR and always get good responses to Teacher adverts, we never fail to recruit and the standard of candidates is excellent - could easily appoint a number of shortlisted applicants.

That doesn’t marry with posts like these - maybe we are the exception to this trend I don’t know.

Do you work in a girls' grammar?