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Boomers and their video calling obsession?

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Finlesswonder · 06/03/2024 12:25

Anyone else noticed this? Work and family members, if they're a boomer then 9 times out of 10 they try to video call you. I think they discovered this during lockdown and have now become obsessed
I'm a millennial btw

OP posts:
BIossomtoes · 07/03/2024 09:50

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:45

My parents and MIL are well aware of the demographic data. It is freely available.

So you wouldn’t go into your ageist rant to anyone’s face. You just spill bile from the safety of anonymity behind your keyboard.

Yirk · 07/03/2024 09:50

Boomer here...never video called anyone ever!

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:52

Untaxed wealth:
Second homes, rental properties, investments and companies as well as cash deposits.

These things are taxed in much of the EU

SomersetTart · 07/03/2024 09:53

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:43

It's the " hard earned cash" eg: untaxed wealth I have the issue with. The concept that they are entitled to free and unlimited acsess to health and social care whilst holding the vast majority of the nation's property and wealth on which they pay virtually no tax.

Older people pay tax on their pensions, tax on earned income, they pay stamp duty, VAT, fuel tax, road tax, council tax, capital gains tax etc etc.

Retirement isn't come kind of Caymen Islands with Bingo and blue rinses.

Under the current system we are all entitled to free and unlimited access to health and social care. If it was means tested a great percentage of retired people would still be entitled to that as they are amongst the poorest people in the country.

When I was a kid in the 1980s older people had all the best houses, pensions, nice cars - it was a time of huge youth unemployment but I don't remember people blaming the old for having lived long enough to have got themselves in a better position. We just thought they'd earned it and they deserved some compensations for a life of hard work. We knew one day they'd lie down and die and it would be our turn.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:55

BIossomtoes · 07/03/2024 09:50

So you wouldn’t go into your ageist rant to anyone’s face. You just spill bile from the safety of anonymity behind your keyboard.

I don't think I am the one ranting. We learnt about this in school in the '80s. There is generational inequity, it's a fact. It is discussed widely within my family including all generations. Are you disputing the demographic and fiscal data and claiming it is somehow ageist ?

BIossomtoes · 07/03/2024 09:57

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:52

Untaxed wealth:
Second homes, rental properties, investments and companies as well as cash deposits.

These things are taxed in much of the EU

They’re taxed here. Capital Gains tax on second homes and rental properties, income tax on the income from rental properties, investments and dividends, and interest on cash deposits. And of course there’s inheritance tax, specifically aimed at wealth.

None of those things are confined to people aged between 79 and 60, nor does everyone in that age group have all or even some of those things.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 07/03/2024 09:57

A lot of non working adults are not pensioners.

TheCompactPussycat · 07/03/2024 09:59

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:38

Please educate yourself, the situation now is incomparable to that at any time since 1945. The sheer voume of non working adults is far, far greater, especially in comparison to the number of working adults. The birth rate has been below replacement level since the '60s- it's the whole reason for the "boomer" mokiner. As a generation despite being the wealthiest to have ever lived and having the highest life expectancy, they have not come even close to paying for their own social and health care.

the "boomer" mokiner.

That's quite the Freudian slip there.

Mrsjayy · 07/03/2024 10:02

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:45

My parents and MIL are well aware of the demographic data. It is freely available.

I think you should show them your graph I'm sure they would be interested in your views I mean you could do a PowerPoint presentation just so its "educational"

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:03

My graph ? Which graph ? the one produced by the IFS ?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:06

BIossomtoes · 07/03/2024 09:57

They’re taxed here. Capital Gains tax on second homes and rental properties, income tax on the income from rental properties, investments and dividends, and interest on cash deposits. And of course there’s inheritance tax, specifically aimed at wealth.

None of those things are confined to people aged between 79 and 60, nor does everyone in that age group have all or even some of those things.

Yes so sorry, you are completely right. The baby boomers have absolutely paid their dues ( probrably more than tbh) there is no generational inequity. After all they had to deal with 15% interests rates for about 2 weeks I have got it totally wrong thanks for correcting my misconceptions.

Cornflakes44 · 07/03/2024 10:07

My dad does this. No warning and a video call pops up. I find it incredibly intrusive. I mainly ignore then call him back, he'll then try to switch to video. I find it so awkward and selfish. Like I want to communicate like this, whether you like it or not,

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/03/2024 10:09

Goforitagain · 07/03/2024 06:33

I think that OP just wanted to post something goady so included work and family without actually thinking about if it made sense. Work calls are generally business teams meetings which include all ages

And it would explain why they have not once engaged in an actual discussion Wink

Mrsjayy · 07/03/2024 10:10

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:06

Yes so sorry, you are completely right. The baby boomers have absolutely paid their dues ( probrably more than tbh) there is no generational inequity. After all they had to deal with 15% interests rates for about 2 weeks I have got it totally wrong thanks for correcting my misconceptions.

you are actually ridiculous and really need to have a word with yourself maybe have an .outlook past the demographic of pensioners or older people that you choose to research.

SomersetTart · 07/03/2024 10:11

Nobody is saying there's no generational inequality @Neurodiversitydoctor .

Posters are just pointing out that the generalisations you've made do not apply to all and that the points you raise about tax are inaccurate.

You seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that a lot of older people are not the rich boomers you believe they are that many of those not working are not receiving state pensions.

Ariela · 07/03/2024 10:13

Eh? I'm a boomer and have never needed a video call.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:15

SomersetTart · 07/03/2024 10:11

Nobody is saying there's no generational inequality @Neurodiversitydoctor .

Posters are just pointing out that the generalisations you've made do not apply to all and that the points you raise about tax are inaccurate.

You seem unwilling to acknowledge the fact that a lot of older people are not the rich boomers you believe they are that many of those not working are not receiving state pensions.

Edited

I absolutely acknowledge both those points. But really when over 65s starting talking about their " hard earned cash" and what they believe it should entitle them to I find it completely tone deaf as to where public services funding is actually coming from in 2024.

TheCompactPussycat · 07/03/2024 10:18

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:03

My graph ? Which graph ? the one produced by the IFS ?

The one that you have so spectacularly misread not once, but twice! Pensions account for neither 33% nor 25% of total spend.
Try again. Perhaps it will be third time lucky for you.

BIossomtoes · 07/03/2024 10:21

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:15

I absolutely acknowledge both those points. But really when over 65s starting talking about their " hard earned cash" and what they believe it should entitle them to I find it completely tone deaf as to where public services funding is actually coming from in 2024.

Excuse me - it was you who mentioned “hard earned cash”. Public service funding is coming from taxation and most pensioners pay tax.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:23

saraclara · 07/03/2024 08:50

Boomer is most commonly used to paint all older people as rich or racist ,refusing to hand over nice homes , using all our hard earned money to keep themselves alive

I have never seen the term boomer used in a positive way

That. Any negative generalisation of a particular demographic is simply wrong and unfair. I'd say that the baby boomers and the millennials are the groups who've been targeted most in this way. As a baby boomer it annoys me no end. And as the parent of millennials I'm equally frustrated on their part.

This is the post I quoted.

BIossomtoes · 07/03/2024 10:25

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:23

This is the post I quoted.

In which case look at the context. It was a parody of people with views like yours.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:29

yes that is the whole point.

CaptainMyCaptain · 07/03/2024 10:32

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 09:43

It's the " hard earned cash" eg: untaxed wealth I have the issue with. The concept that they are entitled to free and unlimited acsess to health and social care whilst holding the vast majority of the nation's property and wealth on which they pay virtually no tax.

We do pay tax on pensions other than state pension, savings and part time jobs on the same basis as everyone else.

phoenixrosehere · 07/03/2024 10:34

Millennial too, but I prefer video calls and texts over just voice calls and voice notes. I also don’t like voicemails.

I also know I don’t have to answer the video chats if I’m busy or just don’t want to. My parents are boomers and they video call on specific days because they work and we are on different time zones. If neither of us can chat, we don’t answer and message back when we’ll be able to talk.

As it has already been said, many people of all ages do video chats so it is not an obsession from boomers and odd you view it that way.

CaptainMyCaptain · 07/03/2024 10:34

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/03/2024 10:15

I absolutely acknowledge both those points. But really when over 65s starting talking about their " hard earned cash" and what they believe it should entitle them to I find it completely tone deaf as to where public services funding is actually coming from in 2024.

Who is making demands? This thread is about video calls