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To be a bit worried for Bianca Censori?

107 replies

SlightlyJaded · 03/03/2024 18:33

The outfits are getting less visible and from the pictures I've seen, she doesn't seem to be that comfortable with her public nudity.

The sheer brown tights with no knickers and braless blue jumper combo was bonkers, and she seemed to be holding her phone over her almost naked crotch in the restaurant in Italy. The 'nearly nude' looks seems to be getting more and more extreme, whilst Kanye accompanies her wearing puffer jackets and tracksuit bottoms.

Before Kanye, she was often in tight leisurewear - a bit like Kim K - but she didn't have this fetishy, exhibitionist thing going on. I don't know... maybe she is loving it, but I do worry that he is coercing her into this and she just feels humiliated and a bit ashamed. I hope I'm wrong, but each new outfit makes me feel even more uncomfortable. .

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merryandbrightdelight · 03/03/2024 18:38

I agree with this. I've read that her DF wants to speak with Kanye. Like you say, she may be comfortable with it and enjoying it, but the clothes - or lack of them - is bonkers!

EspressoMacchiato · 03/03/2024 18:40

She always looks slightly off in the photos. Not drugged as such but not exactly “with it”.

Dartmoorcheffy · 03/03/2024 18:40

She looks utterly miserable and drugged. It's quite concerning to see. He is weird and mentally unstable. Her eyes are completely dead.

QuestionableMouse · 03/03/2024 18:42

She looks ill and unhappy in the pics in the blue jumper and tights.

PurpleTinsel555 · 03/03/2024 18:42

Honestly, same. I feel so, so sad and scared for her. Her resemblance to Kim minus the latter’s social capital makes her this bizarreo mannequin an abusive man can ‘do anything to’. It seems like she’s become a weapon Kanye is wielding against his ex and to get publicity. Very disturbing and upsetting for both women involved.

EmilyTjP · 03/03/2024 18:44

I totally agree.

TheSparkofCreation · 03/03/2024 18:46

How do you know she isn't loving the attention and hoping to create enough of a profile to become a brand?

ssd · 03/03/2024 18:47

She does look very dazed

thefallen · 03/03/2024 18:50

I'm all for women wearing what they want, but she doesn't look as though this is what she wants. Kim wore progressively more extreme outfits when she was with Kanye and has stopped doing so since they split. It seems as though he controls what his partners wear and deliberately makes them and others uncomfortable.

SlightlyJaded · 03/03/2024 18:51

TheSparkofCreation · 03/03/2024 18:46

How do you know she isn't loving the attention and hoping to create enough of a profile to become a brand?

I don't. And, I made that point in my OP. But this is a new thing for her - and only since she's been with Kanye. You don't have to be an expert in reading body language to see that she looks miserable and uncomfortable with the nudity. There is one of her in flesh coloured tights, a see through nude vest top and she is walking around holding a cushion in front of her crotch.

It feels like he is pushing her to see how obedient she will be, and prove her devotion by humiliating herself for him. Whether it's to make a point to Kim, or just to feed his ego, I have no idea, but it's making me feel really uncomfortable.

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Dartmoorcheffy · 03/03/2024 18:52

TheSparkofCreation · 03/03/2024 18:46

How do you know she isn't loving the attention and hoping to create enough of a profile to become a brand?

I don't, but I just get a really bad vibe about it . It's not like the miserable unsmiling face Victoria Beckham perfected, bianca just looks completely detached and miserable. It's bizarre and no wonder her friends and family are so concerned about her.

Againsttheflow · 03/03/2024 18:53

The whole world is worried for her.

SlightlyJaded · 03/03/2024 18:54

@Againsttheflow Good. I hope people around her can get to her and check on her.

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baileybrosbuildingandloan · 03/03/2024 18:57

TheSparkofCreation · 03/03/2024 18:46

How do you know she isn't loving the attention and hoping to create enough of a profile to become a brand?

My opinion too.
Look- we know her name and are talking about her.
She could easily leave him if she wanted to. She has enough people who are there to help her. She's not the same as an abused woman who can't leave. Whose partner is a pillar of society. Or no money.
I thought k she wants to be Kim.
I wish she had been arrested in France. Or Italy. That was disgraceful.

Jessforless · 03/03/2024 19:06

It feels reminiscent to me of one of the girls in the R Kelly documentary, I think he made her cut her hair, wear really masculine looks and get tattoos or something. (Can’t quite recall the details.) I think she looks really uncomfortable and so far removed from the very apparently educated and professional person she previously was…

SlightlyJaded · 03/03/2024 19:07

@baileybrosbuildingandloan You might be right, but I don't think her celebrity-ness makes her immune from coercive control or domestic violence - Rhianna / Mel C / Halle Berry / Tina Turner / Robin Givens / Kelly Roland... it happens.

But yes - she might be enjoying it. She might not. She might not think she is being abused, or she might have decided that it's the price she will pay for being married to Kanye West. But she doesn't not read like a women choosing her path or her clothes.

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Nanny0gg · 03/03/2024 19:10

SlightlyJaded · 03/03/2024 19:07

@baileybrosbuildingandloan You might be right, but I don't think her celebrity-ness makes her immune from coercive control or domestic violence - Rhianna / Mel C / Halle Berry / Tina Turner / Robin Givens / Kelly Roland... it happens.

But yes - she might be enjoying it. She might not. She might not think she is being abused, or she might have decided that it's the price she will pay for being married to Kanye West. But she doesn't not read like a women choosing her path or her clothes.

Or behaviour?

pinkpale · 03/03/2024 19:12

What I don't understand is why restaurants are letting her in dressed like that.
Personally I'd complain if we were in the same restaurant and had to eat near a near naked woman (or a man).
Why is no one turning them away?

BoohooWoohoo · 03/03/2024 19:13

Hopefully they won’t bring a child into this

Cornettoninja · 03/03/2024 19:18

I’m wary of still photos since they aren’t entirely reliable narrators of someone’s inner thoughts and one frame can easily be presented out of context…

but yes, I worry for her. KW is not a healthy force and undoubtedly surrounded by yes men because he has the money and power to wield. Whether it’s part of a mental illness or just him I don’t know but his ego is huge and I just don’t think he’s got any control over it. It does present as an extreme sub/dom relationship and likely titillating to one or both of them.

At the very least I think there should be far more done legally given their liking for her wandering around basically nude.

TheSparkofCreation · 03/03/2024 19:18

But this is a new thing for her - and only since she's been with Kanye

Nonsense. She's was an exhibitionist before she met Kayne. Google her.

And there are plenty of photos of her laughing with him whilst parading around almost naked. She's loving the attention and your concern is misguided.

DrJoanAllenby · 03/03/2024 19:19

She's fully complicit in her paid contract. Don't be fooled.

Geebray · 03/03/2024 19:21

It's utterly bizarre. He had a woman before her, who he also used to dress up, but Bianca seems willing to go further.

With that weird, dead-eyed expression that she has.

SoOutingWhoCares · 03/03/2024 19:21

She definitely doesn't look like the same person. I think he's made her cut her hair short and bleach it in the past and then he's forced her to parade around practically naked. It screams some sort of kink. He's abusing her and I suspect treating her like a sex slave. I hope she manages to get away.

Awful example for his daughters as well.

Okwotnext · 03/03/2024 19:23

I think she should be prosecuted for her own sake if she’s breaking indecency laws. That way she might get a voice. I worry it’s massive abuse. Interestingly my late teen daughters think she’s choosing. So I wonder am I prudish or actually just more aware of the possibility of her being exploited