Food orders for work related events are to be vegan and vegetarian only

[ValerieVomit]

We all received an email at work to say that when we order catering in future for work related events we can only order vegetarian and vegan food. The management team has imposed this. It's to reduce our carbon footprint. I don't think that this means there is to be no carnivorous food available for the rest of the organisation but our department won't allow us to order any.

Reasonable or not?

But what if you want to eat?
Why should you be forced to bring your own stuff. We'd consider it unreasonable if a menu didn't have a vegetarian or vegan option. Now it's reversed and it's the masses being penalised.

How much % of the uk population are vegan. Is it 4.7% or more. I'm all for including, but what about catering for all aswell?

Only ordering vegetarian wouldn’t bother me even though I do eat meat. It makes it easier to cater for most people.

I do have a problem with it being to reduce carbon footprint, as I think there is a lot of inaccurate and misleading data out there on this subject and I don’t believe it would make any difference.

It is catering for all though as everyone can eat it (barring allergies of course!)
You're not going to die from lack of meat consumption from one laid on work buffet.
Stick a bacon butty in your handbag to snarf on later if it's that important to you.

You have three choices.

Eat what's provided
Bring your own
Don't eat

I'm pretty sure some of the options available will be the exact same choices that would have been there before they took the meat options out, and people would have been happy to eat them then....

@NoMoreFalafelsForYou
Yawn. Thats not what I said. You seem ti be missing my point. Deliberately?

Oh do sod off. You have no idea

@MassageForLife
I eat vegan all the time. You've missed my point.

If we've both missed your point, you're not being very clear.
This sounds like you're advocating for meat as well as you don't want to be without meat for the day.
Was just saying that having a vegan buffet is catering for all. There's no reason why people can't try it.

Why should you be forced to bring your own stuff. We'd consider it unreasonable if a menu didn't have a vegetarian or vegan option. Now it's reversed and it's the masses being penalised

I'm all for including, but what about catering for all aswell?

That people are being penalised? By being given food for free at work?

Yeah, it's a damned shame. Anyone want to help me start a go fund me campaign?

But work events have never catered for everyone.

Until vegan food started becoming a thing, I always had to bring my own food as they always seemed to cover everything in mayonnaise, which I can’t eat.

Ouch? Now who had taken offence.
Go fund me?
Are we supposed to be grateful if work makes what appears to be a rash and ill-informed decision. Food provided is great. Lunch at a works do meeting. Fab. But then we find out that many don't like it. And it's not as carbon footprint friendly as they thought. Which was their objective.

Because when I occasionally cook vegan I carefully choose the ingredients based on many factors, also trying to use less processed, and less travelled.

And yes I can live either way without bacon 🥓 . Despite what one poster posted incorrectly, wrong presumption.

Although I do like a BLT.

Zebra but that's the point. They should at least be striving for. That very thing.

Years ago they never even did a vegetarian option. But they got better, and finally included one.

So you occasionally cook vegan but you said you eat it all the time 😕
Which is it, I'm confused lol
If you eat it all the time but you only occasionally cook it, presumably you're okay with one lunch buffet at work being vegan seeing as you sound like you eat that thing all the time anyway?

Offence? 😆😆 You have an overactive imagination.

You don't have to be grateful. All you have to do is either eat it or not. If you don't like what's offered, don't eat it. They are not obliged to make sure you like what is offered. In fact, they most likely aren't obliged to offer anything at all.

But I think most people would be able to find something at a vegetarian and vegan buffet that they would eat. I certainly could and I eat meat. And the people that couldn't are probably just being deliberately awkward - because as I said before, I'm pretty sure they would happily eat the vegan and vegetarian options that existed when the buffet included meat.

I think this would be a good idea for all corporate event environments. However I think vegetarian rather than vegan menus would be a better option, as the latter is a much more restrictive diet and its implementation tends to be unimaginative, relying on "vegan cheese", "vegan meat" and other products which are ultra-processed and not very tasty. There are many vegetarian dishes that are delicious and can be made with normal ingredients, you can have veggie pizzas, curries, pastries etc.

And yes, despite some people's denial and whataboutery, reducing meat consumption does reduce carbon footprints. The reality is that unless a big reduction in meat consumption is strongly encouraged at a societal level, it will never happen out of people's own will, and we won't have any chance to dig ourselves out of the hole we're sinking into with climate change. So I'm fine with vegetarian meals being imposed at corporate events. (Most such events are pointless anyway and the most effective carbon footprint reduction would be to abolish them.)

I have a very good idea. You know absolutely nothing and are embarrassing yourself.

@LordSnot
😃😃😃🙂
Oh yes, I am mortified
You Still haven't explained why I am so wrong about the creation of fake meat/fish

Didn't you see the graphic I posted up comparing the environmental impact of a Beyond burger vs a beef one?

Here's a start.

Plant based foods nearly always involve the generation of less emissions than animal products. Coffee and chocolate are exceptions (still lower than many animal products) but of course neither are the staple foods of a vegan meal https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local