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Liz Truss

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Collywobblewobbles · 29/02/2024 17:16

Am I being unreasonable to start to question Liz Truss' sanity?

OK I've put this in Aibu but it's a serious question, she honestly comes across as if she doesn't have a foot in reality and, as a former PM and current politician, it's a serious & genuine question.

She believes an extremist Islamic party is at risk of winning a local election, she believes Trump-oh-please-Mr-Putin-feel-free-to-bomb-Nato-states is the single best thing for the safety of the West and whenever she's asked a question which she can't or doesn't want to answer she just acts like nothing has been said and does this weird smile into nothingness.

There's calculated political moves to extend your career and then there's the strange machinations and declarations which we see from her, it's just.....so bizarre.

I'm just beginning to wonder if she's living in some sort of fantasy-world.

If someone can shed some rational light onto her actions then please do because I'm at a loss!

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lljkk · 29/02/2024 22:07

Neah, I don't buy that, CoatRack. The BoE stepped in to stop everyone's pensions being destroyed. Their hand was forced by market traders (yay capitalism....) spotting a way to maximise their profits via panic selling. BoE mitigated the market blow up.

I listen to a lot of economics, legal, political and trade podcasts fwiw

What intrigues me is that Labour has a "big spending economically irresponsible" reputation because of the "Dash for Growth" budgets of early 1970s; Truss took same strategy resulting in faster disaster (because modern economy moves faster). And yet Tories haven't earned the mantle of economically irresponsible. For doing same thing that went wrong in 1973. Weird !

CoatRack · 29/02/2024 22:14

lljkk · 29/02/2024 22:07

Neah, I don't buy that, CoatRack. The BoE stepped in to stop everyone's pensions being destroyed. Their hand was forced by market traders (yay capitalism....) spotting a way to maximise their profits via panic selling. BoE mitigated the market blow up.

I listen to a lot of economics, legal, political and trade podcasts fwiw

What intrigues me is that Labour has a "big spending economically irresponsible" reputation because of the "Dash for Growth" budgets of early 1970s; Truss took same strategy resulting in faster disaster (because modern economy moves faster). And yet Tories haven't earned the mantle of economically irresponsible. For doing same thing that went wrong in 1973. Weird !

Buy what you like, 100% of my data is from the BOE itself.

TheLeadbetterLife · 29/02/2024 22:19

Itscatsallthewaydown · 29/02/2024 17:24

She’s chasing the mental money now, and in the US there’s plenty of it.

This. She's just deeply cynical, and the likes of Truss, Trump, Johnson and Farage have realised that it doesn't matter at all whether their gobshite pronouncements add up to a coherent world view. All they need to do is push the buttons of whatever audience they are trying to coin it in from at any given time.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 29/02/2024 22:29

And she’s entitled to over £100k a year for life due to being an ex-PM. This. Is. A. Disgrace.

Benmac · 29/02/2024 22:36

I cannot understand why she is not in a secure unit. Batshit crazy doesn't begin to describe her.
The brass neck turning up at the Cenotaph covers it. Never mind the mortgage hell she is solely responsible for. Kwasi did what he was told.
Millions of voters will never her for that. Personally don't believe she should be allowed out without a keeper

CagneyAndLazy · 29/02/2024 22:37

I honestly don't think Ms Truss is... 'all there'.

She came to our village, when she was foreign secretary, to help the local Tory MP and councillors with some campaigning.

In the local paper there were many photos of her looking somewhat bewildered, and she looked like she'd been dressed by someone else...who was blind drunk...in the dark. She had trousers on that looked like they should have been full length but weren't quite long enough, some bright blue trainers and non-matching socks, along with a purple turtle-neck sweater and a coat that was too small.

As a rule I don't judge people on appearance but she really looked as though something was not quite right with her, not a serious stateswoman at all.🤔

VictoriaPink · 29/02/2024 22:48

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 29/02/2024 19:38

I don't think she is evil.

I think she is really unwell.

I actually think she's both. They're not mutually exclusive.

Superlambaanana · 29/02/2024 23:04

I always thought she was odd, or as they say these days 'neurodiverse'. Suspect she is on some kind of spectrum, but if she was truly barking, she wouldn't be making all the money she's making, or living the international high life, or being surrounded by people telling her she's great (even if they are barking). She may well know exactly what she's doing and just be enjoying the continued attention.

Teajenny7 · 29/02/2024 23:37

Pigglyplaystruant99 · 29/02/2024 20:13

She lost me £7k in my pension. She's very odd.

She lost me a lot more

crockofshite · 29/02/2024 23:51

Pigglyplaystruant99 · 29/02/2024 20:18

Just got in from work and not read whole thread but Rory Stewart tells a good story on one of his Rest is Politics podcasts about working under her 🤣

Do you know the date or episode number please?

CheapThrillsMeanNothing · 01/03/2024 00:06

I believe that she has the safest Tory seat in Norfolk and that is saying something. South West Norfolk.
You could put a blue rosette on a donkey and it would get elected there.

Nat6999 · 01/03/2024 00:41

They would have been better asking the lettuce to speak.

Acapulco12 · 01/03/2024 00:47

Benmac · 29/02/2024 22:36

I cannot understand why she is not in a secure unit. Batshit crazy doesn't begin to describe her.
The brass neck turning up at the Cenotaph covers it. Never mind the mortgage hell she is solely responsible for. Kwasi did what he was told.
Millions of voters will never her for that. Personally don't believe she should be allowed out without a keeper

I agree with all of this, but regarding her going to the Cenotaph for Remembrance Day, isn’t this something she has to do as an ex Prime Minister? I know it looks silly given the fact that she was only PM for 45 days or so, but I think it will look much worse if she doesn’t go, as she’ll get accused of laziness/not being patriotic/not being respectful etc.

jen337 · 01/03/2024 01:09

CoatRack · 29/02/2024 20:13

I think she's a bit thick.

However, she is not responsible for anything that happened to the economy. This is a massive falsehood, and the fact that everybody in politics and the media went with it (despite knowing otherwise in many cases) must be very frustrating for her. If she had delayed her budget announcement for a week then none of it would have happened.

Then consider that this, while spurious, was used to force her to resign so that Rishi (elected by nobody) could be installed.

A case of the ends justifying the means. Regardless of whether the analysis was unfair her complete mishandling of that budget exposed her lack of nous, leadership and credibility.

tobee · 01/03/2024 01:24

Yes her supreme arrogance meant that she went ahead without consultation/collaboration is the way my memory has it.

tobee · 01/03/2024 01:25

tobee · 01/03/2024 01:24

Yes her supreme arrogance meant that she went ahead without consultation/collaboration is the way my memory has it.

I mean why didn't she delay it by a week if would have been so easily avoided?

VerduraWeb · 01/03/2024 01:34

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RogueFemale · 01/03/2024 01:39

She's in lala-land and she is scary. Also horribly pleased with herself, which make it more scary.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/03/2024 01:45

YANBU @Collywobblewobbles.

I watched PM Truss's mini budget live. I was 😱. I'm no expert but even I recognised it for the disaster that it was.

Her behaviour ever since has been absolutely mental! Blaming misogyny, the Leftist🙈 international money markets and most recently the Deep State. She is the Kanye West of the Conservative Party.

Totally delusional.

SloaneStreetVandal · 01/03/2024 06:33

The tories don't appear to have noticed (to any significant extent) just how damaging she was/is to them. To the point that I wonder if she's actually an undercover agent for labour 😂 Agent Truss. The tories are in the worst shape they've ever been in my living memory, and its largely her fault!
And yes, that manic smile is truly unnerving, it goes way beyond arrogance - she's absolutely not playing with a full deck.

Tatumm · 01/03/2024 06:59

lljkk · 29/02/2024 22:07

Neah, I don't buy that, CoatRack. The BoE stepped in to stop everyone's pensions being destroyed. Their hand was forced by market traders (yay capitalism....) spotting a way to maximise their profits via panic selling. BoE mitigated the market blow up.

I listen to a lot of economics, legal, political and trade podcasts fwiw

What intrigues me is that Labour has a "big spending economically irresponsible" reputation because of the "Dash for Growth" budgets of early 1970s; Truss took same strategy resulting in faster disaster (because modern economy moves faster). And yet Tories haven't earned the mantle of economically irresponsible. For doing same thing that went wrong in 1973. Weird !

I agree @lljkk

And I don’t believe Truss is crazy as some are suggesting. It’s the ideology at the heart of Truss’s actions that is extreme and not in our interests. If any of you read Britannia Unchained, it exposes what these ideas are.

Cornettoninja · 01/03/2024 08:10

CoatRack · 29/02/2024 22:14

Buy what you like, 100% of my data is from the BOE itself.

But the narrative added to the data is your own.

CoatRack · 01/03/2024 08:33

Cornettoninja · 01/03/2024 08:10

But the narrative added to the data is your own.

Precisely which parts of my 'narrative' do you have a problem with, given that the data don't change?

BIossomtoes · 01/03/2024 08:37

tobee · 01/03/2024 01:25

I mean why didn't she delay it by a week if would have been so easily avoided?

Exactly, whichever way you turn it her lack of judgement is at fault. The most egregious thing she and Kwarteng did was sack Tom Scholar, that was shocking.