Liz Truss

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Am I being unreasonable to start to question Liz Truss' sanity?

OK I've put this in Aibu but it's a serious question, she honestly comes across as if she doesn't have a foot in reality and, as a former PM and current politician, it's a serious & genuine question.

She believes an extremist Islamic party is at risk of winning a local election, she believes Trump-oh-please-Mr-Putin-feel-free-to-bomb-Nato-states is the single best thing for the safety of the West and whenever she's asked a question which she can't or doesn't want to answer she just acts like nothing has been said and does this weird smile into nothingness.

There's calculated political moves to extend your career and then there's the strange machinations and declarations which we see from her, it's just.....so bizarre.

I'm just beginning to wonder if she's living in some sort of fantasy-world.

If someone can shed some rational light onto her actions then please do because I'm at a loss!

I doubt that many will...hopefully she'll lose her seat in the next election.

I think she's a bit thick.

However, she is not responsible for anything that happened to the economy. This is a massive falsehood, and the fact that everybody in politics and the media went with it (despite knowing otherwise in many cases) must be very frustrating for her. If she had delayed her budget announcement for a week then none of it would have happened.

Then consider that this, while spurious, was used to force her to resign so that Rishi (elected by nobody) could be installed.

She lost me £7k in my pension. She's very odd.

She has daughters?

Yes - and before the Brexit Referendum she was very concerned about their futures and the country that they would go up in:

"I don't want my daughters to grow up in a world where they need a visa or permit to work in Europe, or where they are hampered from growing a business because of extortionate call costs and barriers to trade. Every parent wants their children to grow up in a healthy environment with clean water, fresh air and thriving natural wonders. Being part of the EU helps protect these precious resources and spaces."

That worked out well then, thanks to her U-turn on Brexit - and the efforts (or lack of) of her best buddy Therese Coffey to clean up the environment.

Just got in from work and not read whole thread but Rory Stewart tells a good story on one of his Rest is Politics podcasts about working under her 🤣

However, she is not responsible for anything that happened to the economy. This is a massive falsehood, and the fact that everybody in politics and the media went with it (despite knowing otherwise in many cases) must be very frustrating for her. If she had delayed her budget announcement for a week then none of it would have happened.

You're going to need to explain this, @CoatRack please! 🙏

Well, if you believe old Popbitch posts then she can quite the er…minx might be a good word. I hope your post doesn’t mean that!

Tbh, aren’t most politicians bonkers? I could list a few off the top of my head right now. They’re either bonkers, incompetent, or both. There’s not many I have respect for.

Just one of them?

If she had delayed her budget announcement for a week then none of it would have happened.

Why? What was different 1 week later? Why would the Markets have found her budget responsible & not disruptive if one week later?

Rory Stewart's accounts of being a junior minister in her dept, or Tim Hartford's comments about sharing her tutorials at Oxford, make her sound distinctly odd.

Me too!

I feel sorry for her parents.

Yep! He is very much less than complimentary. She’s seems to have had a complete empathy bypass. Stewart talks about telling her that his father had just died - she paused, nodded and asked when the 25 year environmental policy would be ready

what, did I mess up the punctuation!😬
shame on me!!

Apologies in advance for War and Peace.

There's a hell of a lot to it, but in a nutshell, several of the financial events that happened (supposedly due to the budget) were going to happen anyway. Those things that did happen were overblown, especially in comparison to the deafening silence around the exact same things occuring - but to a greater degree - one year prior.

I say she should have waited a week because if she had, the timing wouldn't have worked as well for the "she's destroyed the country" narrative. She also should have done it a bit more softly softly rather than making it a surprise, as the global money market was in something of a friable state at the time.

The media went mental about the Saturday budget which helped make investors twitchy by Monday business, and spiked the gilt yields (which had been going up for ages by this point anyway) so the BOE stepped in to purchase some, so it would settle.

After a post-budget spike they were back down to almost where they were pre-budget by the time the BOE announced their measures a week later. They also went higher than that peak, and for longer, a month or so later after the purchases had been made.

The £19bn of purchases, aside from being literally a drop in the ocean when it comes to government finances, were all successfully re-sold just a couple of months later.

There was also hysteria about the BOE selling off £80bn in gilts, for some reason because of the budget. Not true - they do this all the time - and in fact this particular sale was communicated in a market notice days before the budget.

Basically, if the media and political classes had left it alone then things would have rippled and settled, as these markets always do. Instead, it was made into the mother of all economic bombs and used to install Dishy Rishi, whose hundreds of billions of BOE purchases while chancellor somehow didn't affect the economy nearly as much....

basically she is getting paid to spew crap and she is saying stuff to make herself popular among the extreme right wing essentially for a payday

tbf if I was being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to spew utter bullshit to people who already believe that stuff, then I would probably do it.

She’s fookin bonkers, and us poor tax payers are footing the bill for her security, she’s made enough enemies recently. My husband always comments that she has a good pair of tits 🤔, perhaps she could start an only fans page.

I agree about sympathy for her daughters. They really looked uncomfortable when out in Downing Street listening to her farewell speech, and I'd guess fellow pupils or students have voiced opinions that are not pleasant to hear about your mother.

Wow!

There is something curiously inhuman about her. She's like some weird humanoid robot that has badly malfunctioned.

I can't think of her without thinking of the vast sum of money she gambled away, causing so much hardship for so many, and the nerve of her now on top.

I just think there's some really bad cocaine going round Westminster. It has been cut with LSD and Spice. They're all fucking mental in the Tory party.

Narcissism

That time where she turned up late to the house of commons. Sat there for 5 minutes in a daze and left early was bizarre. She looked tranquilised. Probably the strangest time in British politics, even after Johnson.

Truss believes that the Tory party should move towards free market economic policies, free trade, public spending cuts & tax cuts to kick start economic growth.

"Tories should move toward...... public spending cuts!

er, What's with the "move toward" ??? My experience is that has been happening since 2010
Councils are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy everywhere
Waiting times for an ambulance are criminal
Police are unable to respond to crimes
A&E Waiting times are horrendous
Waiting times for operations are horrendous
Special school places are like hens' teeth
Waiting times for a child to be assessed for autism are 3 years long
Mental Health Support was broken many, many years ago.
The criminal justice system is broken.
Youth service in my authority is literally 5% of what it was at it's height (then they wonder why there is so much knife crime, gang culture etc)
Early Help Services slashed
Children's centres slashed
No allocated Health Visitors - those that work as HV have such horrendous caseloads they can only get to child protection cases
Social services on its knees

Services such as cleaning the drains (big issue when you get heavy rainfall) are so long gone they aren't even remembered.

there is nothing left to cut where I live.

This is interesting.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/decisions-matter/202211/the-7-deadly-sins-brought-down-liz-truss-in-7-weeks