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To finally lose my temper and tell him to F off?!

63 replies

cathusa · 26/02/2024 03:03

Thankfully, this 'relationship' didn't last long. I am child-free and 33.

I stupidly made an exception for a single Dad because we clicked on so many other aspects. I'm 33 (female), so I suppose a lot of my 'pool' consists of a lot of parents. Certainly if they are older - which he is. He is 45.

This guy told me his co-parenting with his ex was cordial and in a good place. Total BS. He told me his kids didn't 'drop in' on the days he didn't have them, despite them being somewhat close by. Total BS.

Every date was interrupted with incessant calls. The mother would want to dump the kids onto him at a moment's notice, so nights in were quickly shut down - and because I had yet to formally meet them, I would have to leave the house before they entered. There was no formal arrangement regarding when the kids would be with the Mom/Dad, despite him saying otherwise. Plus, if he wasn't at home, he'd be at the Mom's house playing happy families. He even still thought he could take family (domestic and Intl) trips together - and they apparently still wanted to have that 'family setup'.

It was beyond insulting. Worst of all, I kept doubting myself and feeling like the worst person in the world for wanting a dinner where the phone didn't ring throughout - and so to 'keep the peace' - I would say nothing. But when I did speak up (and even that was kindly), I felt like a horrible person and like I was being 'needy' or 'competing' for attention.

But the truth is, because I'm such an independent person by nature, I let many things slide as I'm more than ok with my own company. But in the end, I was compromising too much. When I ended things, I was very polite and he thanked me for being understanding and said many lovely things etc... there was no drama within the break up and no shouting or anything like that. No blowup.

Of course, children should be a priority. I totally understand that, but he was trying to have this happy family setup in one home and thinking he could have this relationship with me on the side - where I couldn't even get my basic needs met. I hated feeling like I was 'asking for scraps of attention' - as that's so far from who I am as a person.

He admitted that he thought he could have both - and that there were no boundaries between him and his ex - and admitted that she still very much wanted this setup to continue too, more than he apparently did (but that could be BS - who knows). I suspect he just wanted to be the 'fun' and 'available' Dad - which I sort of get. They were still very much in each others' pockets. But in that case, there's sadly no room for another relationship - which is why I (respectfully and kindly) walked away.

Looking back now, I don't even know if his divorce had been finalized. He did admit his situation was 'difficult' for a CF person, but to be totally blunt, seeing him jump whenever his ex said 'jump' - just made me lose all respect for him. But I also understand that he's being present for his children, which is obviously no bad thing.

A few days later, he came back trying to plead his 'case' and list all the 'advantages' and how his kids don't demand a lot of attention and will be 'out the house soon'.

Hearing that didn't make me feel good as there shouldn't be a countdown as to when they 'leave'. Also, parenting is a job for life. So his 'case pleading' fell on deaf ears. I shut it down.

He's since come back again and suggested a break/vacation together. Whilst I appreciate the thought/efforts - I also feel like I'm not being heard - as what would that solve?! We are simply not compatible. Full stop.

I think because I ended things so amicably and kindly (which he would also agree with) - he still feels like he can have some swaying power. But now I am just beyond angry. I handled a situation well because I wanted what was best for their family - and yes, also for myself, but I feel like he's now asking me to put all of my needs aside for him.

Am I being unreasonable here in feeling as angry as I do? Once again, I feel like a terrible uncompromising person.

OP posts:
AliceOlive · 26/02/2024 03:14

No, you are not unreasonable nor selfish. He misrepresented the situation to you. You’ve dodged a bullet.

AliceOlive · 26/02/2024 03:15

I feel like he's now asking me to put all of my needs aside for him.

He’s not, because he doesn’t recognize you have any needs!

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 26/02/2024 03:18

You’re no more uncompromising than he is.

His set up works for him. It doesn’t work for you.

You’re being completely reasonable walking away.

KnowledgeableMomma · 26/02/2024 03:21

"It's not going to work out, for all the reasons I said in our previous conversations. I wish you nothing but the best. I won't be contacting you again." And block.

Mothership4two · 26/02/2024 03:21

I'd just be very clear there is no going back and the situation will never work for you - personally I would also block as he is getting up your nose. He obviously thinks there's a possibility you will change your mind.

I can understand parents wanting to have as amicable as possible a split but that situation sounds messy and is probably confusing for everyone concerned.

Happyinarcon · 26/02/2024 03:22

You are obviously suited to a man without kids. It was wise to end the relationship because he would have been put in the position of having to choose between you and his kids which would be sad for everyone. I don’t really know what you want people to tell you tbh, being a dad isn’t something you can schedule in or switch on and off so at least you know that going forward.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 26/02/2024 03:24

YANBU

Sounds like you handled everything really well. Sorry he doesn’t seem to have listened to you.

cathusa · 26/02/2024 03:25

Happyinarcon · 26/02/2024 03:22

You are obviously suited to a man without kids. It was wise to end the relationship because he would have been put in the position of having to choose between you and his kids which would be sad for everyone. I don’t really know what you want people to tell you tbh, being a dad isn’t something you can schedule in or switch on and off so at least you know that going forward.

@Happyinarcon I totally agree. Of course, being a parent isn't something you can schedule in/switch on and off. It was more just that he told me the situation/setup was 'A' when it was 'B'. The reality of it was nothing like what he portrayed it to be. To be frank, I would actually be happy if the family did 'stay together' - as much as can be! I wouldn't feel so terrible in that case.

Also, I would never be the person who would say 'choose between me and the kids' as that's obviously awful. (Not saying you were implying I would/had done such a thing). It was just a mess (for me) to be a part of - and I, of course, wished him only the very best.

OP posts:
GreigeO · 26/02/2024 03:30

You are obviously suited to a man without kids. It was wise to end the relationship because he would have been put in the position of having to choose between you and his kids

Since I got divorced, I had dated a couple of guys long-term who are parents, and very rarely does their being a parent intrude on the relationship.

I can think of maybe once when someone has had to leave a date early because of something to do with their kids, but what would be more normal would be to receive a call or text, acknowledge it briefly, but then refocus on you because they are on a date. Issues with their kids are important, but they are very rarely urgent.

cathusa · 26/02/2024 03:36

Mothership4two · 26/02/2024 03:21

I'd just be very clear there is no going back and the situation will never work for you - personally I would also block as he is getting up your nose. He obviously thinks there's a possibility you will change your mind.

I can understand parents wanting to have as amicable as possible a split but that situation sounds messy and is probably confusing for everyone concerned.

@Mothership4two Thank you for your response.

I, too, can totally understand parents wanting to have an amicable split as possible. But I can't imagine any new partner would be ok with both parents/children going away on family vacations together still, spending most days/evenings together, dropping in at any moment in time etc... It's truly wonderful that that's a setup/reality that may work for people - because I love to see families stay together, but he was delusional in thinking there was any room for a relationship with someone else. It seemed like he wanted to play happy families but also have some sex on the side.

Luckily, there was no major fallout during my breakup with him and it was all very polite. On that, he would even agree with me.

But yes, this constant pleading his case is just irritating now.

OP posts:
cathusa · 26/02/2024 03:38

GreigeO · 26/02/2024 03:30

You are obviously suited to a man without kids. It was wise to end the relationship because he would have been put in the position of having to choose between you and his kids

Since I got divorced, I had dated a couple of guys long-term who are parents, and very rarely does their being a parent intrude on the relationship.

I can think of maybe once when someone has had to leave a date early because of something to do with their kids, but what would be more normal would be to receive a call or text, acknowledge it briefly, but then refocus on you because they are on a date. Issues with their kids are important, but they are very rarely urgent.

@GreigeO I had thought the same! Surely not every call would be important/urgent, but in his case, it apparently always was.

I did wish him well though. We were just not compatible.

OP posts:
Ladybyrd · 26/02/2024 04:06

This person is not available. I would move on.

Treehuggingmutherfunkin · 26/02/2024 04:24

Just ghost don't even say f off
Silence is better

Lurkingandlearning · 26/02/2024 04:35

I hardly ever think “just block them “ but that is what I think you should do. You’ve politely explained your position and he is refusing to accept it. There’s no reason for him to contact you again so make sure he can’t.

poetryandwine · 26/02/2024 04:47

I ended a ‘fling with potential’ for similar reasons, OP. I am glad I did, but part of that is that while I liked the guy a lot I couldn’t imagine falling head over heels for him.

It sounds like there may possibly be an element of this for you as well?

In any case I met DH which was a much more enthusiastic proposition from the outset a year later. That was quite a while ago!

Pinkfrlls · 26/02/2024 05:01

Life is short. Time is precious. Tell him to eff off and don't come back.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 26/02/2024 05:04

It sounds to me like you made a situation that’s nothing to do with you all about you. Maybe find someone without any ties who will always make YOU the star of the show.

fatphalange · 26/02/2024 05:06

Does he realise the relationship is over? He should leave you alone! You've dodged a complete nightmare here, I think.

iamjustwinginglife · 26/02/2024 05:14

Maybe what he told you about the set up was right when he told you but the ex has decided to sabotage his new relationship by constantly calling him while he's with you?

Shoxfordian · 26/02/2024 05:16

Tell him again that you're done and block him, sounds like you made the right choice

thebestinterest · 26/02/2024 05:20

Plus he’s way too old for you, specially is you’re wanting children for your own. Next.

Isthismyforever · 26/02/2024 05:29

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 26/02/2024 05:04

It sounds to me like you made a situation that’s nothing to do with you all about you. Maybe find someone without any ties who will always make YOU the star of the show.

Edited

I think that's very unfair on the OP. Sounds to me like she has been very understanding & tbh the guy is at fault for misrepresenting the set up to her. I don't think she has made it all about her at all! Quite the opposite.

Oblomov24 · 26/02/2024 05:41

"You are obviously suited to a man without kids. "

I disagree. You just want a man, (who may very well have kids) who has boundaries, and who considers your needs, and who has space for you and prioritises you. Not unreasonable.

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/02/2024 05:57

Oblomov24 · 26/02/2024 05:41

"You are obviously suited to a man without kids. "

I disagree. You just want a man, (who may very well have kids) who has boundaries, and who considers your needs, and who has space for you and prioritises you. Not unreasonable.

I agree with this. It’s ok for family life to take precedent sometimes when the dcs are with the other parents. But not all the time. They both sound very enmeshed and haven’t truly moved on from the relationship.

theduchessofspork · 26/02/2024 06:35

KnowledgeableMomma · 26/02/2024 03:21

"It's not going to work out, for all the reasons I said in our previous conversations. I wish you nothing but the best. I won't be contacting you again." And block.

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