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To finally lose my temper and tell him to F off?!

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cathusa · 26/02/2024 03:03

Thankfully, this 'relationship' didn't last long. I am child-free and 33.

I stupidly made an exception for a single Dad because we clicked on so many other aspects. I'm 33 (female), so I suppose a lot of my 'pool' consists of a lot of parents. Certainly if they are older - which he is. He is 45.

This guy told me his co-parenting with his ex was cordial and in a good place. Total BS. He told me his kids didn't 'drop in' on the days he didn't have them, despite them being somewhat close by. Total BS.

Every date was interrupted with incessant calls. The mother would want to dump the kids onto him at a moment's notice, so nights in were quickly shut down - and because I had yet to formally meet them, I would have to leave the house before they entered. There was no formal arrangement regarding when the kids would be with the Mom/Dad, despite him saying otherwise. Plus, if he wasn't at home, he'd be at the Mom's house playing happy families. He even still thought he could take family (domestic and Intl) trips together - and they apparently still wanted to have that 'family setup'.

It was beyond insulting. Worst of all, I kept doubting myself and feeling like the worst person in the world for wanting a dinner where the phone didn't ring throughout - and so to 'keep the peace' - I would say nothing. But when I did speak up (and even that was kindly), I felt like a horrible person and like I was being 'needy' or 'competing' for attention.

But the truth is, because I'm such an independent person by nature, I let many things slide as I'm more than ok with my own company. But in the end, I was compromising too much. When I ended things, I was very polite and he thanked me for being understanding and said many lovely things etc... there was no drama within the break up and no shouting or anything like that. No blowup.

Of course, children should be a priority. I totally understand that, but he was trying to have this happy family setup in one home and thinking he could have this relationship with me on the side - where I couldn't even get my basic needs met. I hated feeling like I was 'asking for scraps of attention' - as that's so far from who I am as a person.

He admitted that he thought he could have both - and that there were no boundaries between him and his ex - and admitted that she still very much wanted this setup to continue too, more than he apparently did (but that could be BS - who knows). I suspect he just wanted to be the 'fun' and 'available' Dad - which I sort of get. They were still very much in each others' pockets. But in that case, there's sadly no room for another relationship - which is why I (respectfully and kindly) walked away.

Looking back now, I don't even know if his divorce had been finalized. He did admit his situation was 'difficult' for a CF person, but to be totally blunt, seeing him jump whenever his ex said 'jump' - just made me lose all respect for him. But I also understand that he's being present for his children, which is obviously no bad thing.

A few days later, he came back trying to plead his 'case' and list all the 'advantages' and how his kids don't demand a lot of attention and will be 'out the house soon'.

Hearing that didn't make me feel good as there shouldn't be a countdown as to when they 'leave'. Also, parenting is a job for life. So his 'case pleading' fell on deaf ears. I shut it down.

He's since come back again and suggested a break/vacation together. Whilst I appreciate the thought/efforts - I also feel like I'm not being heard - as what would that solve?! We are simply not compatible. Full stop.

I think because I ended things so amicably and kindly (which he would also agree with) - he still feels like he can have some swaying power. But now I am just beyond angry. I handled a situation well because I wanted what was best for their family - and yes, also for myself, but I feel like he's now asking me to put all of my needs aside for him.

Am I being unreasonable here in feeling as angry as I do? Once again, I feel like a terrible uncompromising person.

OP posts:
Rubbishconfession · 26/02/2024 11:56

nc42day · 26/02/2024 10:54

It's absolutely ok for women to feel anger, but it's a pretty destructive emotion to be carrying around. Depends on your perspective, if having to repeat myself was making me angry I'd block his number and protect my energy.

He wasn't for you. He wishes he was. Nobody died. You now know that you don't want to be in a relationship with anyone with children, move forward with that knowledge and wish him well.

Edited

Anger is good and cleansing, it’s opened OP’s eyes.

Not sure why you think OP should be have to continually repeat herself and therefore she has destructive anger in her 🙄

nc42day · 26/02/2024 12:07

I'm not the anger police. Anger is often a secondary emotion, but why not, anger it up. Rage. Kick the cat. Whatever floats your boat.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 26/02/2024 12:29

Tell him that the decision has been made, you won't be revisiting it and any further contact from him will be reported to the police as harassment. Losing your temper is optional.

Rubbishconfession · 26/02/2024 12:45

nc42day · 26/02/2024 12:07

I'm not the anger police. Anger is often a secondary emotion, but why not, anger it up. Rage. Kick the cat. Whatever floats your boat.

Why are you so threatened by women finding their anger at manipulative men?

Nicole1111 · 26/02/2024 12:55

Ultimately he secured you through dishonesty about his situation, and now you’ve called bs on it he’s trying to use the same tactic to make you believe it will be different. Trust your gut and be firm with him.

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 26/02/2024 13:00

I think if they were still married and one of them went out with a friend for the evening they wouldn't cancel it at the drop of a hat/take 30 min phone calls in non emergency situations. You weren't unreasonable at all in what you asked, and you shouldn't feel bad blocking him.

Gloriosaford · 26/02/2024 13:07

Ignore him, leave him twisting in the wind 🌬️

FirstTimeMum897 · 26/02/2024 13:11

Block him, he's being annoying.

Personally, I don't think I could date someone with children, I can't imagine being a step mum. I'd make an exception for the right man but I wouldn't make so many concessions early on. Trust your instincts next time.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 26/02/2024 13:32

He wanted the best of both worlds. He and his DW split up, but he is still very engaged and gets to be Dad. I think he thought he could do the same with you. Split up - immediately reducing any demands you might make on him, but have a "friendly" relationship, where you are still around.

You've said No and he needs to accept it.

IsthisthereallifeIsthisjustfantasy · 26/02/2024 13:54

A few days later, he came back trying to plead his 'case' and list all the 'advantages' and how his kids don't demand a lot of attention and will be 'out the house soon'.

Argh, I've dated men like this. When you call it off, they refuse to take no for an answer and try to argue with you and push back on your reasons. It's a type of disrespect. You have done the right thing to walk away.

If his kids will be "out of the house soon" then perhaps in a few years' time, when that is the case, if you are both single at that point there will be the potential to rekindle. It's not a good reason to continue dating now.

nc42day · 26/02/2024 14:41

Rubbishconfession · 26/02/2024 12:45

Why are you so threatened by women finding their anger at manipulative men?

I'm not threatened by women "finding" their anger. I think there are many situations where humans get angry and it's useful. I am not sure that this is one of them. I have dealt with a lot of manipulative people in my time and getting angry with them/about them/losing your temper helps not a jot. They don't give a fuck, and you give yourself a migraine. A bit of perspective helps loads, block him, move on.

Or you can spend your days churning over how angry you are that there's a man out there that wants to be in a relationship with you, and you don't feel the same. I'd rather save it for something a bit more fundamental, otherwise one would be storming round blowing a constant fuse, and I choose not to spend my days in that way. But free will and all that, blow that fuse if you feel thats the best use of your energy.

Lassiata · 26/02/2024 14:54

He sounds awful and you're better off out. You didn't do anything wrong.

But I would stick to not making any exceptions for guys with kids in future. You sound unsuited to it.

SerafinasGoose · 26/02/2024 16:39

IsthisthereallifeIsthisjustfantasy · 26/02/2024 13:54

A few days later, he came back trying to plead his 'case' and list all the 'advantages' and how his kids don't demand a lot of attention and will be 'out the house soon'.

Argh, I've dated men like this. When you call it off, they refuse to take no for an answer and try to argue with you and push back on your reasons. It's a type of disrespect. You have done the right thing to walk away.

If his kids will be "out of the house soon" then perhaps in a few years' time, when that is the case, if you are both single at that point there will be the potential to rekindle. It's not a good reason to continue dating now.

I personally wouldn't consider rekindling anything with this man under any pretext.

A man who, when a woman says 'no', hears something entirely different isn't a good or safe prospect.

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