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Finding out baby's gender

77 replies

starryeyed19 · 25/02/2024 18:30

My third, my husband's first.

He doesn't want to find out the gender. I wouldn't mind knowing.

Would I BU if I found out and didn't tell him? I feel like I am bending over backwards, trying to make the pregnancy special for him as it's his first time but then I'm missing out on things that I want to do this time around.

I know it's as shady as hell to do it and not tell him but he definitely wants to know. Should I just stick it out?

YABU: You agreed to wait, so wait.
YANBU: It's your pregnancy too, find out if you want to.

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Rosesanddaisies1 · 26/02/2024 10:47

starryeyed19 · 25/02/2024 18:45

I realise that Mumsnet is quite hot on the whole gender vs sex thing but I would appreciate it if you could continue that particular discussion on another thread please.

it's not a discussion, it's a very basic fact. You have no idea how your child will chose to express their gender identify. It's a very important distinction. And YABU to find out if he doesn't want to know, there is no way you will keep it a secret.

PoppingTomorrow · 26/02/2024 10:47

How far gone are you and why does he not want to start getting stuff for the baby?

TitusMoan · 26/02/2024 10:51

This man sounds like a massive PITA.

“not controlling, not really”

Why is he trying to make this pregnancy all about him?

Suchagroovyguy · 26/02/2024 11:06

Also he’s a controlling red flag on legs. He sounds appalling.

AliceA2021 · 26/02/2024 11:34

You won't find out the gender until the baby becomes a young person or a teenager ish age and decides its own gender. Depends how the ideology and social contagion has spread by then of course. Could be even more genders by then than the over 150 genders to pick from currently.

If you mean biological sex then speak to your partner and tell them why you would like to find out and reach a solution.

AliceA2021 · 26/02/2024 11:39

TheCadoganArms · 25/02/2024 18:39

I thought these days the midwife flips a coin?

I think that's what some people refer to as having been 'assigned ' a gender. Person who helped with birth flips coin and assigns it. Can then later be adjusted dependent on whether someone wants to swish hair about and wear swirly skirts (or I am confusing that with the big hairy ones who swap a bit later in life).

Herdinggoats · 26/02/2024 11:42

I think if you find out it will be very difficult to not start thinking of them as he or she and you’ll slip up at some point. You say you’re not bothered but you obviously are! I think you need to have a conversation with him where you say you are excited and want to start getting things ready together.

paintingvenice · 26/02/2024 11:45

starryeyed19 · 25/02/2024 18:41

I didn't find out with my first but did with my second.

We're doing things very much according to his timescales. I want to start getting things ready for the baby and buying clothes, he wants to wait, so we're waiting.

I'm trying very hard to be mindful that this is his first child and trying to be careful about recommending ways of doing things or breastfeeding vs bottle feeding etc because he seems to get quite hurt otherwise.

Given he seems quite sensitive to the fact you have done it before and seems a bit touchy about the fact you already have kids I’d be hyper aware that his behaviour towards your current kids doesn’t change and that they don’t see the baby being treated better. It should go without saying, but he seems like he could need a sharp tug in the early days.

Bumbers · 26/02/2024 11:53

For me, finding out was important to help me feel connected and prepared. It made them more "real". Honestly, I was the one going through pregnancy and I think that means I get to make this decision. I would have found out regardless, as it was important to me.

Picklestop · 26/02/2024 11:58

starryeyed19 · 25/02/2024 18:45

I realise that Mumsnet is quite hot on the whole gender vs sex thing but I would appreciate it if you could continue that particular discussion on another thread please.

It isn’t a discussion or a debate. It is a simple fact that what you are considering is finding out the sex of your baby, not its gender.

To your question, I think the parent that doesn’t want to know has to be able to veto in this case, there is no way the other parent can find out and willl not let it slip.

BobbyBiscuits · 26/02/2024 12:00

I don't think it's right that he should be saying he 'wants you to find out together'. He can say he doesn't wish to know. I guess he might simply worry you would let slip if you did know. So just find out, and do not say anything.
If it will be difficult for you to maintain the fact you don't know, then would it be terrible for him if you said sorry, I need to know, it's my choice? You still don't need to tell him the sex.
I think he is a bit unreasonable to say/ dictate what you should do personally.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 26/02/2024 13:09

SquashPenguin · 25/02/2024 19:56

Yep same here. I’d be devastated if my partner knew and I didn’t.

Why?

I think it's fine to find out and he doesn't, just don't do it secretly. Also have some words with him to chill out - you already have two kids, you're doing all the hard work of actually gestating this child, him getting upset at you even mentioning something that insinuates this isn't your first rodeo is deeply annoying.

Of course be tactful about it, but he needs to give his head a wobble on that front.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 26/02/2024 13:25

SquashPenguin · 25/02/2024 19:56

Yep same here. I’d be devastated if my partner knew and I didn’t.

Devastated is quite strong. If he knew and didn't tell you? How would that impact you?

Hillarious · 26/02/2024 13:29

You'll find out soon enough, OP.

SquashPenguin · 26/02/2024 14:06

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 26/02/2024 13:25

Devastated is quite strong. If he knew and didn't tell you? How would that impact you?

Because we both agreed we don’t want to find out. If he went behind my back (if that was even possible) I’d be really upset. We wanted it to be a surprise for both of us, it’s our first and likely our only, and I think it’s important to be on the same page.

BirdsofPrey1 · 26/02/2024 14:11

what can't people stop posting about this baby gender nonsense. It's sex. what do some not understand?

BIossomtoes · 26/02/2024 14:12

I need to know, it's my choice?

Nobody needs to know. The human race got on just fine for thousands of years waiting until babies were born to know their sex.

Galeforcewindatmywindow · 26/02/2024 14:16

Ime knowing we were having a ds helped my first time df dh gain some confidence in advance!

AliceA2021 · 26/02/2024 14:16

BirdsofPrey1 · 26/02/2024 14:11

what can't people stop posting about this baby gender nonsense. It's sex. what do some not understand?

Perhaps people don't understand biology and use the word for feelings and how someone feels they are rather than biological reality of sex or plain old XX or XY sex chromosomes?

I mean you're not going to find out on a scan if the baby will identify as pansexual, gender neutral or cat gender, so I imagine they get their words a bit mixed up? There is a push to get rid of the use of biological sex in some groups but that's a big debate.

thebestinterest · 26/02/2024 16:10

Op, lots of couples choose to go 50/50 in regard to finding out or not.

You can find out and not tell him. He can’t dictate what you learn and don’t learn. ..

starryeyed19 · 26/02/2024 18:07

I'm very sorry to all the gender/sex people. I used the wrong word and couldn't figure out how to edit my initial post on my phone. Can we leave it now? The point has been made several times.

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starryeyed19 · 26/02/2024 18:07

Thank you again to the people actually responding to the question asked.

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starryeyed19 · 26/02/2024 18:10

Some PP made some good points about it being more real or feeling more connected to the pregnancy once they knew.

I'm still undecided which I'm taking as a sign to leave things as they are for now. Thank you again for your input. You've given me a lot to think about.

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AmiablePedant · 26/02/2024 18:15

starryeyed19 · 25/02/2024 18:45

I realise that Mumsnet is quite hot on the whole gender vs sex thing but I would appreciate it if you could continue that particular discussion on another thread please.

It's not up for discussion; the meaning of the terms was determined long ago. You want to know your child's biological sex; your child will decide years later to what extent he or she follows or embraces or defies or reshapes the gendered behaviors stereotypically associated with his or her biological sex.

starryeyed19 · 26/02/2024 18:36

Please stop: at least five people have pointed this out. I apologise for making the mistake with the terminology

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