What is she up to?

[DontVisitCabotCove]

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

@Nanaof1 how? How on earth could she even start to make a claim on the house?

OP has a life limiting illness and DB stands to inherit. It’s possible she thinks she may have some sort of claim once that happens.

@MILTOBE On the previous page has posted a link about someone fraudulently selling a house. It seems that there are numerous cases.

I really don't know how she would do it, but she could still try it on, hoping for a payout to go away.

Why do YOU think she had an agent out to put a value on the house? She has no money to buy one on her own. She and OP's DB have broken up, so there is no joint purchase of a house to come.

If OP has a life-limiting illness, perhaps she hopes to be able to push her way into the middle of any beneficiaries.

I've seen courts do some very strange things.

She didn't do it out of pure curiosity.

You're brother split up with Jane?

But that still doesn't make sense! The poor OP has a life-limiting illness. She's leaving her house to her siblings. This ex-girlfriend cannot possibly have any case for saying she should inherit anything.

I do wonder whether she's planning to pretend major fraud, though.

Certainly for no good reason but clearly she can’t make a claim on that house.

This I understand but somehow thinking she could claim a third of the house doesn’t make sense at all.

There is some rule about other adults living at a property when you remortgage if they are not on the deeds. I had to get my adult daughter to sign something about her not being able to claim it was her home if I didn’t pay the mortgage. Otherwise I couldn’t remortgage. It was called an Occupiers Consent Form.

She wouldn’t inherit directly but it sounds as though she thinks she may have a claim on DB’s share.

The OP has no mortgage.

The ex girlfriend, Jane, to whom the DB has no familial tie and with whom he has no children, has zero claim over his possible future inheritance, at some indeterminate time in the future, of an indeterminate proportion of the OP's property.

Is there any chance she could be pregnant and is gearing up for a CSA claim?

Make sure you register for HM Land Registry Propery Alert in case she is planning to commit a fraud and ‘sell’ your house

Talk about an abuse of your kindness in letting her stay with you!

People who are married with children are deemed by the family court to hold inheritances that are to come to them in their own right, not as family money. People who live unmarried with their partners for years and have children with them have few rights over their partners' property and assets. What makes people think an ex girlfriend, who has no children with the DB, would have any chance of getting her mitts on an asset he may not inherit (and let's very much hope this is the case) for many years to come?

OP, have you written a will and is your brother listed as executor, by any chance?

We have a couple of house we let out and we have signed up with an agency that alerts us if our tenants try to sell them as their own property as it has happened.

Go nuclear about this OP.

Where are the deeds? She doesn't have access to them does she?

Estate agents don't visit people at home who are looking to rent or buy another property. The only time an estate agent has ever visited me was when they came to value the house they visited me in.

Word of warning op, when you set up the alert with land registry you will get an annual "nothing to report" message which looks enough like a 'someone did something' alert from the subject line that it makes me panic Every. Single. Time. It drops into my inbox 😂

Snugglemonkey it is all totally dodgy, it did cross my mind imagine if their having an affair and it's innocent but not innocent, what a plot twist 😅

I see that loads of people have already warned you of the danger of having an unmortgaged property you own sold without your knowledge. It's a good idea to have a property alert in place with the Land Registry just in case.

Do check that your passport, birth certificate and so on are where you keep them. The whole situation sounds so odd that it's probably better to be safe than sorry.

Is it something to do with school catchment area for her children? Could that be what the letter is about too? If they're not married and he's not the father of the children then obviously she can have no expectation of a settlement.

Sorry that you're having to live with all this, OP. I hope the next 10 days fly by. This is the last thing you need when you're ill. All the best.

You do know that she wanted that letter so she could get 1/3 of the value of the house, correct?
If you gave her a letter saying your brother lives there, she can go after it. At least try. She needs to get the hell out of there.

Gosh, I've seen some nonsense stated on MN over the years but this take the prize. She's DB's ex girlfriend. The children aren't his. She's currently being accommodated as a favour by the OP due to her relationship with DB — a relationship which is now over.

How anyone could suggest that the fact that she and her kids have been temporary guests at OP's house means that she's due of a share of OP's property is beyond daft.

get the photo from your doorbelll onto social media and ask who the guy is / say you know he’s an EA but may be getting scammed via your property.

@DontVisitCabotCove I'm terribly sorry to read your updates. I hope you're as comfortable as possible and are surrounded by love. 💐

I also hope Jane falls into a bin of rotten food. What a megalithic cheeky fucking fuck! Whatever she is upto she's clearly a fucking lunatic and just a very underhanded, sly, grabby bastard. Fuck you Jane, if you ever read this, fuck you.

i wonder if she was getting a rental value estimate. Then she can say £2000 divided by 4 bedrooms - his ougoings are only £500 he can afford to pay lots for the kids upkkep