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To ask what NHS frontline staff think of Breathtaking?

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CloudyYellow · 20/02/2024 23:06

I have watched all 3 episodes. I worked on the frontline during Covid. I found it very triggering and my fury is back.

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Alexandra2001 · 02/03/2024 07:34

It's all said with the benefit of hindsight though isn't it? When this new virus first arrived we did not know who would be most susceptible. It could have decimated children and young adults like Spanish flu did which would have been even less acceptable to society

Its not Hindsight.

Even before any talk of LD, it was well known the virus hit the elderly the hardest, same with "most" respiratory viruses.

But we had Boris and that gave us the edge.....

ThePure · 02/03/2024 07:38

I was responding to a poster who was saying we over reacted and should have known via our crystal balls that lockdowns would be more harmful than the virus. I think we still don't know if that was or was not the case. It's hard to weigh up everything on both sides of the argument

We surely knew a bad thing was coming and that many people had died in China and Italy but that's pretty much all we knew.

We didn't know the details at that early stage
Eg I can clearly recall people were still terrified that it might affect children which we now know it doesn't. We didn't know the risk factors. People were very worried if they had respiratory diseases even mild asthma. It's a fair assumption but later on we realised cardiac risk factors are much more relevant

DuncinToffee · 02/03/2024 09:38

Alexandra2001 · 02/03/2024 07:34

It's all said with the benefit of hindsight though isn't it? When this new virus first arrived we did not know who would be most susceptible. It could have decimated children and young adults like Spanish flu did which would have been even less acceptable to society

Its not Hindsight.

Even before any talk of LD, it was well known the virus hit the elderly the hardest, same with "most" respiratory viruses.

But we had Boris and that gave us the edge.....

Exercise Cygnus provided plenty of warnings

Alexandra2001 · 02/03/2024 09:44

ThePure · 02/03/2024 07:38

I was responding to a poster who was saying we over reacted and should have known via our crystal balls that lockdowns would be more harmful than the virus. I think we still don't know if that was or was not the case. It's hard to weigh up everything on both sides of the argument

We surely knew a bad thing was coming and that many people had died in China and Italy but that's pretty much all we knew.

We didn't know the details at that early stage
Eg I can clearly recall people were still terrified that it might affect children which we now know it doesn't. We didn't know the risk factors. People were very worried if they had respiratory diseases even mild asthma. It's a fair assumption but later on we realised cardiac risk factors are much more relevant

We knew the age groups CV most affected from the data Italy shared.

LDs seem to have had the most impact on the UK, we started off with some of Europe's most run down public services.

Hence our MH crisis & so many having left the workforce, many because of ill health & unable to get treatment.

GreekDogRescue · 14/03/2024 19:54

Thedogscollar · 28/02/2024 21:23

Stop being so pathetic and juvenile.

Are you denying the TikTok dancing routines?
Do you think this an appropriate use of healthcare workers time during a pandemic?
My cousin died because people like you insisted that sick people should stay at home to ‘protect the NHS’.
Thousands are now dying because early diagnoses were missed.
And you call us ‘pathetic and juvenile’
Shameful.

DuncinToffee · 14/03/2024 20:21

Stay home to protect the NHS came directly from the government, direct your blame and anger at them.

Janiie · 14/03/2024 20:37

DuncinToffee · 14/03/2024 20:21

Stay home to protect the NHS came directly from the government, direct your blame and anger at them.

I think it was advice given to them by medical experts who knew there was a surge of very sick patients coming so needed to get the public to act responsibly and take the pressure off NHS services.

The many, many TikTok routines were indeed highly inappropriate and insensitive. Managers should've bollocked anyone who participated.

DuncinToffee · 14/03/2024 20:42

It was Boris Johnson who appeared on tv daily to reiterate the message

Stay home, protect the NHS and save lives

Janiie · 14/03/2024 20:56

DuncinToffee · 14/03/2024 20:42

It was Boris Johnson who appeared on tv daily to reiterate the message

Stay home, protect the NHS and save lives

Yes I know I saw him. My point was like Sturgeon, Drayford and every other leader he was making rules based on expert advice. He didn't make it all up himself.

DuncinToffee · 14/03/2024 21:03

Ofcourse but the Government made the final decision.

Front line NHS staff had nothing to do with it.

Thedogscollar · 15/03/2024 09:10

@GreekDogRescue
Saw no Tik tok routines in my hospital.
I am a midwife not a nurse but we cared for ladies labouring with covid some became seriously ill ending up in ITU with early caesarean section to save their life. One lady on ECMO for months.

I'm very sorry your cousin died but that cannot be blamed on me, it was the government that decided the rules then chose to break them spectacularly multiple times.

People like me were not on tik tok it's not on my radar.
People like me went to work every night and cared for people like you and just got on with it.
People like me cried with and cared for patients affected with and by covid.
People like me were affected too.

Alexandra2001 · 15/03/2024 09:24

GreekDogRescue · 14/03/2024 19:54

Are you denying the TikTok dancing routines?
Do you think this an appropriate use of healthcare workers time during a pandemic?
My cousin died because people like you insisted that sick people should stay at home to ‘protect the NHS’.
Thousands are now dying because early diagnoses were missed.
And you call us ‘pathetic and juvenile’
Shameful.

People in stressful situations sometimes do irrational things or take part in things that some might say, are inappropriate.

They need to let off steam.

Has to be taken in context, millions of healthcare workers doing their very best, often with little support or correct PPE.

So what exactly is wrong with a singsong? dressing in ash and sackcloth wont bring anyone back from the dead.

Unlike Boris and his piss up parties, these people weren't making up the rules.

The general public didn't tell people to stay at home, that was Boris and Whitty.

Under diagnosis was and still is caused by years of under funding, an elderly and unhealthy population..... the rest of Europe was also hit by Covid, why has their health services returned to normal?

Why is a cancer patient in France or Germany so much more likely to get early diagnosis and prompt treatment?

GreekDogRescue · 15/03/2024 19:59

Alexandra2001 · 15/03/2024 09:24

People in stressful situations sometimes do irrational things or take part in things that some might say, are inappropriate.

They need to let off steam.

Has to be taken in context, millions of healthcare workers doing their very best, often with little support or correct PPE.

So what exactly is wrong with a singsong? dressing in ash and sackcloth wont bring anyone back from the dead.

Unlike Boris and his piss up parties, these people weren't making up the rules.

The general public didn't tell people to stay at home, that was Boris and Whitty.

Under diagnosis was and still is caused by years of under funding, an elderly and unhealthy population..... the rest of Europe was also hit by Covid, why has their health services returned to normal?

Why is a cancer patient in France or Germany so much more likely to get early diagnosis and prompt treatment?

It takes hours, days to organise a collaborated dance routine - especially as those involved were not professional dancers and many were not in good shape.
Healthcare workers are usually rushed off their feet yet during the pandemic they told the sick to ‘stay home to protect the NHS’.
Asa consequence many have died as they were told to stay at home so they missed the opportunity for early diagnosis that could have saved their lives.
It’s sickening.

DuncinToffee · 15/03/2024 20:06

GreekDogRescue · 15/03/2024 19:59

It takes hours, days to organise a collaborated dance routine - especially as those involved were not professional dancers and many were not in good shape.
Healthcare workers are usually rushed off their feet yet during the pandemic they told the sick to ‘stay home to protect the NHS’.
Asa consequence many have died as they were told to stay at home so they missed the opportunity for early diagnosis that could have saved their lives.
It’s sickening.

Are you saying they were neglecting their duties looking after patients?

Have you actually watched the show?

Saschka · 15/03/2024 20:25

It takes hours, days to organise a collaborated dance routine - especially as those involved were not professional dancers and many were not in good shape

It really really doesn’t. I’ve just watched a couple of the nurse Covid dance videos, and these were incredibly simple short routines, and frankly not executed massively well (people completely out of time with each other). I reckon about 20 mins for a motivated Zumba or barre class attender to pick these up.

It literally just looks like a group of people messing about on their break, which I have absolutely no problem with. No reason it would have detracted from patient care.

GreekDogRescue · 15/03/2024 20:34

DuncinToffee · 15/03/2024 20:06

Are you saying they were neglecting their duties looking after patients?

Have you actually watched the show?

They didn’t have patients, ergo the time-consuming dance routines. The sick were told to ‘stay home to save the NHS’.
Many reasonably thought the NHS was there to save them, but what do they know.
Note there are no dance routines being choreographed now, because hospitals are full and they don’t have time.

HRTQueen · 15/03/2024 20:37

Dance routine 🙄

It was a few people following a few steps and filming it

it was silly twatish behaviour by a few not staff who had just popped out of ICU and decided to make better use of their time

Saschka · 16/03/2024 17:34

GreekDogRescue · 15/03/2024 20:34

They didn’t have patients, ergo the time-consuming dance routines. The sick were told to ‘stay home to save the NHS’.
Many reasonably thought the NHS was there to save them, but what do they know.
Note there are no dance routines being choreographed now, because hospitals are full and they don’t have time.

Oh right, you’re an “all the hospitals were secretly empty” conspiracy theorist. I wouldn’t have wasted my time answering if I’d known that up front.

GreekDogRescue · 16/03/2024 20:15

Saschka · 16/03/2024 17:34

Oh right, you’re an “all the hospitals were secretly empty” conspiracy theorist. I wouldn’t have wasted my time answering if I’d known that up front.

Of course all hospitals were not ‘secretly empty’.
You are being utterly ridiculous.
If I’d known you were a conspiracy theorist I wouldn’t have wasted my time replying.

I suppose you think all the patients with early cancer symptoms who stayed at home ‘to save the NHS’ and who are now inoperable is a conspiracy theory too.

campingwithdoggo · 21/03/2024 16:58

@GreekDogRescue how offensive and disrespectful

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