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to want to take child out of the school?

77 replies

urwildquoter24 · 20/02/2024 16:59

My DS2 is 13 and in Year 8. He has been excluded many times from his school, for many different reasons. He has been excluded again today, this time permanently and they are sending him this time to their sister school, about 35 minutes away from our house.

Am I being unreasonable to want to find another school?

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Maarlia · 20/02/2024 17:03

As his parent you can make any decision you want about moving schools.
Assuming there are places in other schools that you choose.

viques · 20/02/2024 17:04

A school that far away means he won’t be known. If you can get him there and they are willing to take him then it sounds like a good opportunity for a new start , otherwise you could be looking at a PRU if there are no other schools willing to accept a managed move, though since he has now been excluded that will be harder. You really need to get him in somewhere before gcse choices become an issue..

notknowledgeable · 20/02/2024 17:05

Is this a managed move? If it is, then give it a chance - it is better than having an exclusion in his records

WhatNoRaisins · 20/02/2024 17:06

I think you need to consider what the best option is for your son. What do you think is going wrong for him to keep being excluded? If you don't have any insights here you need to seek support to find someone who does.

Shivermetimbers13 · 20/02/2024 17:06

Maybe teach him to behave properly before you find another school. He hasn't been excluded for no reason.

idontlikealdi · 20/02/2024 17:09

Is it a managed move?

urwildquoter24 · 20/02/2024 17:11

Well, I can only assume so as the school are moving him.

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notknowledgeable · 20/02/2024 17:14

urwildquoter24 · 20/02/2024 17:11

Well, I can only assume so as the school are moving him.

Well, he should go along with the managed move, and try his best to make it work, he is very lucky to get this opportunity

lovelysoap · 20/02/2024 17:16

Don't discount a managed move OP. He will be unknown and its a new start. If the new school doesn't work out then they will probably look to send him to a PRU, again don't knock them until you visit and have a good look at them some of them are good schools some are not.

If its a managed move then what is the support plan to make sure he doesn't get excluded again. Does he need an EHCP. Be vocal with them about what you think he needs in school to do well otherwise its just shifting a problem to a new area..

The SEN forums on Education on here are really good and really knowledgeable people on there will be happy to give good advice.

TulipCat · 20/02/2024 17:17

What don't you like about the new school? If it's that you think it's too far and there is another option suitable that's closer then yes, ask if that one has spaces. Or have they done that research and placed him at this school as the closest suitable school?

urwildquoter24 · 20/02/2024 17:20

TulipCat · 20/02/2024 17:17

What don't you like about the new school? If it's that you think it's too far and there is another option suitable that's closer then yes, ask if that one has spaces. Or have they done that research and placed him at this school as the closest suitable school?

Well, the fact that many students have been excluded from that school and sent to my son's current school has put me off. There's a girl in his form who was kicked out of the school they're sending him for bringing in knives.

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Shivermetimbers13 · 20/02/2024 17:21

lovelysoap · 20/02/2024 17:16

Don't discount a managed move OP. He will be unknown and its a new start. If the new school doesn't work out then they will probably look to send him to a PRU, again don't knock them until you visit and have a good look at them some of them are good schools some are not.

If its a managed move then what is the support plan to make sure he doesn't get excluded again. Does he need an EHCP. Be vocal with them about what you think he needs in school to do well otherwise its just shifting a problem to a new area..

The SEN forums on Education on here are really good and really knowledgeable people on there will be happy to give good advice.

Why jump immediately to SEN? Maybe he is simply badly behaved. If he had sen, the OP would probably have said so.

Skyblue92 · 20/02/2024 17:22

Is it a managed move or permanent exclusion? The latter would mean that they wouldn’t move him to another school. The former is another step vote PEX. This means that they try a manage move, if it fails then it would potentially move to a final governor panel is the final stage before a PEX.

Even if you move school, the previous school will send over information about the student so there is no guarantee that the school will accept them (they can say no).

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 20/02/2024 17:22

Maybe try and parent him better so he doesn't constantly get excluded, ffs.

titchy · 20/02/2024 17:24

Well, the fact that many students have been excluded from that school and sent to my son's current school has put me off. There's a girl in his form who was kicked out of the school they're sending him for bringing in knives.

That's good surely - you wouldn't want him moving to a school where the badly behaved kids (your child is one btw) were allowed to stay!

lovelysoap · 20/02/2024 17:27

Shivermetimbers13 · 20/02/2024 17:21

Why jump immediately to SEN? Maybe he is simply badly behaved. If he had sen, the OP would probably have said so.

A 13 year old who is constantly being excluded and is 'badly behaved' has special educational needs. Behaviour is communication. He is a child. The OP and her son are probably very stressed at the moment and she has come to MN to get advice (God help her). The SEN forum is a much better place to get advice than AIBU where most people don't have a clue about school exclusions.

notknowledgeable · 20/02/2024 17:29

urwildquoter24 · 20/02/2024 17:20

Well, the fact that many students have been excluded from that school and sent to my son's current school has put me off. There's a girl in his form who was kicked out of the school they're sending him for bringing in knives.

But this is how managed moves work, school managers sit down and discuss their worst behaved pupils, and swap them around, to try and give them an opportunity of a fresh start without actually being excluded.

You will only be offered a managed move to a school where children have had managed moves out of, to your current school

Octavia64 · 20/02/2024 17:32

You can try and find another school.

You may find they do not want him.

FloofCloud · 20/02/2024 17:32

I would be having a serious chat with your DS - is he just naughty or are there other reasons for expulsions?

Mammyloveswine · 20/02/2024 17:34

Why has he been expelled so much? This is your son's fault and he needs to suffer the consequences!!

Shivermetimbers13 · 20/02/2024 17:36

lovelysoap · 20/02/2024 17:27

A 13 year old who is constantly being excluded and is 'badly behaved' has special educational needs. Behaviour is communication. He is a child. The OP and her son are probably very stressed at the moment and she has come to MN to get advice (God help her). The SEN forum is a much better place to get advice than AIBU where most people don't have a clue about school exclusions.

Yes, he is communicating that he is badly behaved enough to be excluded, thereby disrupting the education of his peers.

By SEN I assume you mean ADHD, autism, or some other combination of initials. As I said, the OP hasn't mentioned any of these.
There are very many children who are badly behaved, with absolutely no special needs.

Or do you think that all badly behaved children must have special needs?

The only positive I can see here is that, at 13, he still has time to turn his behaviour around.

Bubblybooboo · 20/02/2024 17:40

What is he being excluded for? Are there any unmet needs or issues he needs support with, or anything else you think impacts his behaviour.

I think if he was being moved I’d want the school to explain why they think the other school will work and how they are going to try and support him. If I felt he was just being dumped elsewhere to get him out the current school, without much thought or planning, then I’d be looking at alternative schools in the area and if any would meet his needs/interests better.

what support has he been given?

fruitypancake · 20/02/2024 17:41

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 20/02/2024 17:22

Maybe try and parent him better so he doesn't constantly get excluded, ffs.

This is such an unpleasant and unhelpful remark . This shows such little empathy and understanding for what some young people are dealing with. You have no idea of the OP's and her DS situation , you can be the best Mum and still have children that behave badly you know !

urwildquoter24 · 20/02/2024 17:43

He has been supported through intervention sessions, and the teachers have been informed as well.

We tested him for ADHD and they suspected he may have it, but we are uncertain at this time.

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