Even more cyclists now breaking the law

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Most drivers and pedestrians will be aware of this as many have seen or been victims of a cycle rider.

Watching Talktv this morning there was a lady who had lost her mother due to an e-scooter rider on the pavement. The show had a lawyer on talking about what I agree with, IE cyclists are very hard to identify if they get away from an accident.

E-scooters we all know are against the law unless provided for by your local council in central London. Several times over the years, me and the family have had close calls with them on pavements and parks as they zoom down, you cant hear them and they often dress in all black clothing.

Push bike riders are travelling faster and faster as many more have those battery packs on them

With the introduction of 20mph zones in vast areas of London, even more, push bike riders are now breaking the law, EG travelling well over 20mph in a 20mph and passing slower cars travelling at 20mph We are all aware how some push bike riders have ignored the rules for years, EG jump red lights, ignore pedestrians on crossings, cause accidents and walk of or rise off and now, much more able to break the speed limits off 20mph with almost 100% impunity and some that at red lights get o the pavement and cross a red light that way or some just ride on pavements

For the record, note, Its some cyclists not all but we have all seen them more so as going to work, or dropping off children at schools the speed of some of these riders

The Talktv debate also talked about those who kill people while riding a push bike/scooter, I think they said the maximum prison sentence was two years (I may be wrong) but the laws needed vast improvements.

This had been talked about a lot before but nothing happened.

AIBU proposes that all cyclists have number plates/easily identifiable markings, all have insurance, all have a bell and lights, and all wear a helmet and hi-vis jacket (This would in my judgment make many more riders more responsible for their actions and our roads/pavements safer for all)

The police need to be more proactive on e-scooter riders. However, as cyclists are almost impossible to identify, my proposal as above will aid the police and hopefully, modify the dangerous behaviours of those cyclists that are now regularly breaking the law, EG, travelling at more than the speed allowed, jumping red lights, putting pedestrians at risk on crossings and pavements.

I'm not even sure all that is possible tbh. How would it work with children? Insurance is a legal contract and children cannot enter into or be bound by a legal contract.

Incredible, another defeatest post.

Anything and everything is entirely "possible," and that is a fact.Where there is a will, there is a way.

Most sensible adults would say children uo to a certain age as is now were exempt. Just like the police stop and check vehicles, they could if they wished do that to ensure no clown was taking advantage. However, I would strongly recommend even children were incurred for at least third-party cover as a child could easily knock over a frail person and a fractured hip in an already elderly person often results in them going downhill and then losing their life

Another defeatest comment, "Children cannot......." Please try a lot harder next time. How do you think children are covered for medical insurance and travel insurance? Incredible.

Today, just returned from the hospital. Prized idiot cyclists clipped our cars door mirrors as we sat at the traffic lights waiting for them to change to turn left. The riser then continued along the road. As there was traffic we could not catch up with the B. The B has damaged and chipped the mirror on our car. Our car is a couple of old and cost us a lot of money and was unmarked until this B did the hit-and-run. It will cost lots of money to get it fixed - even if we call out the on-site repair people in London it will cost at least 200 pounds. The B was wearing a helmet and hi-vis and the B had one of those cameras on their head. I bet you they won't send the video to the police.

So we are 200 out of pocket. The B should have waited as its a narrow road as there is a left turn and go straight or turn right.

If the B had a number on their hi-vis or bike, most likely they would have not passed us and waited and nor would the B have jumped the red lights.

How convenient!

Ah, glad you're still here OP. Do tell us what you think about 20mph limits. Should they be in place in all cities/towns/villages (except for roads with at least a grass verge if not a crash barrier separating any footpath/cycle path from the carriageway)?

Couldn't have happened to a nicer person

So a cyclist broke your mirror?

No, sounds like they scratched the paint.

OP I suggest that you trade the Range Rover in for a Smart car. Then you won't be occupying such an excessive amount of road space.

Where's a segregated cycle lane when you need one to stop all those bikes and cars fighting for road space

If you point out the problems in the OP plan e.g. children, emergency services who use bikes, people borrowing bikes including police officers on duty, bikes not having space for number plates, the fact that people on bikes can cycle in ordinary clothes, law breakers ignoring on this,.....

The OP will claim you are defeatist.

If it helps OP, I'm a massive optimist.

Can we extend your mandatory registration scheme to cars too? If it stops cyclists running red lights it'll certainly stop the 7 drivers I saw running red lights on my 25 minute drive home. And would have been useful in identifying the bastard who sideswiped my parked car in a hit and run several years ago.

Jumped the shark here, OP.

I agree as long as they are fined if they ride outside them where available. Another reason why we need number plates on their hi-vis jackets. I bet you a lot of the clowns that jump red lights etc will soon stop once caught and given points on their licence

given points on their licence

What license? Their tv licence 😂

Maybe their fishing license

Oh sorry I see. No one can ride a bike anymore unless they’ve got a driving license!

Yes, let’s change the law at massive expense and no practical benefit solely to fit in with your own somewhat mental narrative… it makes perfect sense!

I think the shock of being a victim of a hit n run has clearly had a detrimental effect on the OPs cognitive skills

Like the licence and reg plates stopped the 7 drivers I saw jumping reds today?

Are they allowed to cycle outside said cycle lanes if there is a van/lorry/car/broken glass/flooding/ags of dumped rubbish and/or any other obstruction in them?

*bags of dumped rubbish

Today, just returned from the hospital. Prized idiot cyclists clipped our cars door mirrors as we sat at the traffic lights waiting for them to change to turn left

Of course it did. You are anti-cyclist and this just happened to happen? Sure.

And if they did, they did more damage to themselves.

Of course they are, in the same way pedestrians have to walk on roads when morons park on pavements.

In Germany you can get points on your driving licence for certain cycling infractions. At least I was told that, they might have been teasing me.

I care about pedestrians and I don't back them, they are a pain in the neck. Cars go too slowly to go in front of them and you hang around for ages waiting for them to get past so you can cross the road! 30 limits much better,

I don’t understand why all parties don’t have a plate eg cyclists cars scooters

I give more than the legal clearance to the cyclists I overtake and make sure they are safe, but when a cyclists whips past the inside and clips your wing mirror when you are waiting in traffic that’s seemingly fair game? Drivers are more likely to hurt cyclists that’s physics, however cyclist do damage cars and ‘get away with it’ a plate is an easy identification on the bike or scooter.

the cyclists near me are highly aggressive and believe me when you are waiting at a lights and then you get 4 cyclists and they are pinning you on both sides and two in front just MM from your car I find that intimidating. The lights turn green and I’m flanked on inside and outside by bikes - as well as in front of me - leaving me no option but to wait long after the lights have changed and even then I now have 4 of them competing down the road…. Whilst I continue to wait.

There’s a hill near me not too steep which seems to be a goal and challenge for about 500 cyclists between 8 am and 9 am - one is normally going up and one down / it winds like a snake up a decent slope - you can not overtake so we all go at the slowest cyclists speed - a 5 minute car journey takes 30 minutes as you have to sit very slowly behind the very unfit cyclists going the slowest - yet they could take the same path through the woods next to it - cycle path clearly marked through the woods but no that’s clearly not as much fun as delaying thousands of drivers (!)

I want to keep cyclists safe but I do think they must be identifiable as witnesses etc

The classic was a barrier that is a toll / like a car park and you need to pay -cyclists don’t - there is a thin cycle lane by the side. Yet he tried to go through the barrier and it wouldn’t go up - he hadn’t paid so he just hit it over and over until it was totally wrecked and then just cycled off 🤷did easily £1000 work of damage to council property and we all have to pay for it

When even Jeremy Clarkson considers the idea idiotic, the OP has truly lost the plot.