Roundabout collision - who is at fault? With diagram

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Involved in a collision today at a roundabout.

Both lanes go straight on. The left lane leads to a left turn only shortly afterwards hence lots of people use the right lane to go straight, road markings are clear both lanes permit going straight.

Left hand exit is a car park for a local park marked in green ‘park’.

Red car travels in the right lane to go straight on, indicates left and starts to pull off.

Blue car comes from the park and intends to turn straight or right, into the path of red car.

Red car brakes but cannot stop in time and blue car is damaged on the drivers side, red car on the passengers corner side.

Who is at fault?

Blue 100% at fault.

Red was in the correct lane and going into a legitimate lane.

Blue should have checked whether anyone was already on the lane and given way to cars already on the roundabout. The fact that blue was indicating left only compounds that driver's error but doesn't change the basic error of not giving way to the right - which is the basic principle of roundabouts

100% blue car's fault. Pulled out into traffic. Was indicating left but carried straight on. Admitted they were confused by road layout.

Just give a full account to your insurer and let them sort it out. and don't accept if they attempt to share fault.

Blue car is at fault

Blue car

Blue car at fault, right of way is the car coming from the right

Ex insurance claims specialist..depends where the damage is. If it’s the front ns of the red car it indicates it pulled into blue if it’s front of blue car it indicates blue pulled in to red. If it’s both 50/50

if there are no witnesses insurance will 50/50 it.

Blue

Very simple it’s the blue car.
Highway Code clearly states ‘give way to vehicles on the right on or at the roundabout ‘

You have to give way to traffic on the right on a roundabout. It depends on who was on the roundabout first. It seems like it was blue as the red was already on the roundabout.

I had this pretty much same situation and I was the red car like you. Insurance called it 50/50 because said even though they're in the wrong lane and driving the roundabout wrong it was my fault that I wasn't aware they were in the wrong lane...

It's an easy settlement really for the insurance companies!

Doesn’t affect who was to blame

This is the exact same roundabout layout where I live… with a well known secondary school very nearby almost off the roundabout on the other side a bit further down. Anyway, blue car is in the wrong!

I was in the same situation as the blue car, and I was blamed 🙈

Scary how so many of you on here don’t understand how round-abouts work. The blue car pulled into OP’s lane, whether they were indicating left or not, OP had right of way…

This case highlights exactly why I think roundabouts are inherently unsafe. I've been having this debate (this exact senario) with my husband for years, as a theoretical "but what if" discussion and concluded that, as has happened here, both parties think they are in the right because the rules of the roundabout are not sufficiently clear.

I think it's the red car's fault technically. He was crossing a lane to pull off so should have checked it was clear before doing so. The blue car was already on the roundabout at the point of collision so the right of way (already on the roundabout) rule wouldn't apply.

In reality in those situations you just adapt your speed to allow the cars to progress as needed. If the red car was slightly in front then the blue car should have slowed to allow it to exit and vice versa. So perhaps it will be found to be 50/50.

1. this is a circle. A roundabout is something you play on.
2. Blue car is at fault for not checking.

It’s blues fault for not looking and entering the roundabout then signalling incorrectly but unfortunately I think the fact you didn’t see them and crashed into them means it will end up 50:50

Blue car is at fault unless there's a dual lane roundabout with dual lane forward exit and the red cars moved from right to left....but that seems unlikely.

Just seen the pic and hoping to change my mind. Was imaging a much bigger roundabout. On a roundabout of that size, the blue car shouldn't have pulled out and should have waited for you to exit. Think that's fairly clear cut.

If your insurance company wants to do 50/50 they can only do so if you agree. You do not have to agree. My DS didn't, went to court and he won. Other driver was claiming Compensation for injuries which she never got. Good luck. Blue car at fault.

I think we need to see actual road markings.

People saying blue because red was on the roundabout are not correct. At the point of blue entering the left hand lane was clear. Both were then on the roundabout in separate lanes.

It comes down to the road markings. Whether the red car crossed in front of the blue or if the blue should know this due to road markings.

Insurers are weird though. My mum was told she was at fault when she pulled out at a roundabout and someone went into the side of her. I would agree that she would be at fault normally for this type of accident as it would be assumed she pulled out on someone, but in this case the driver wasn't visible on her right when she pulled out because he was drunk and speeding. So she looked to the right. Nothing there so she pulled out. He shot out of nowhere speeding and crashed into her. Driver was prosecuted for being drunk and speeding. But apparently accident was still her fault. Crazy! 🤷‍♀️

Based on this picture blue is at fault. Your initial picture made me think of a roundabouts like Hyde park corner. Massive. But this is tiny. The blue should not have entered as there are no lanes in the actual roundabout.

@sarahd29 Blue damage on driver's door, red damage on n/s front corner (this was in one of the OP's posts).