Roundabout collision - who is at fault? With diagram

[Notcheekyvimto]

Involved in a collision today at a roundabout.

Both lanes go straight on. The left lane leads to a left turn only shortly afterwards hence lots of people use the right lane to go straight, road markings are clear both lanes permit going straight.

Left hand exit is a car park for a local park marked in green ‘park’.

Red car travels in the right lane to go straight on, indicates left and starts to pull off.

Blue car comes from the park and intends to turn straight or right, into the path of red car.

Red car brakes but cannot stop in time and blue car is damaged on the drivers side, red car on the passengers corner side.

Who is at fault?

@Crazydoglady1980

"Have you read the Highway Code links?"

Yes. Nothing red did was contrary to the Highway Code. Please let me know how you think it is. In the meantime, stay off the roads.

Actually they dived in front of OP. Who was signalling. It's crazy irrespective of the rules. But yes, give way to the right at and on roundabouts.

Technically the blue but I would put money on insurers insisting in 50/50

I honestly don’t think the lane layout matters at all. Blue car didn’t give way to the right at a roundabout. Blue car at fault

Blue didn’t drive into the side of red though. If they had it would be red with damage to their door. Technically red drove into the side of blue because the damage is on the front of their car and the side of blues. If the damage was at the front of both I think it would be judged blue fault

I am sure you didn't hit them on purpose. Very few people would want to given the costs involved !

Nearly all collisions don't happen on purpose. They happen because people make mistakes.

If it were me I would just chalk it up to experience. I know it's a pain because a similar thing has happened to me in the past and it costs money. People make mistakes sometimes and that is part of being human.

I just had to analyse what happened to me and learn from it and hopefully become a better driver as a result. Hopefully eventually you can see past it, although I realise it probably doesn't feel great at the moment and probably takes a few days to get a wider perspective on it.

The red car has priority.

I assume by the blue car 'turned right' you mean they wanted the right hand lane of the roundabout, and not driving the wrong way around the roundabout.

OP get a dash cam for future - that would be my reflection.

Blue car comes from the park and intends to turn straight or right, into the path of red car.

Your explanation leaves a lot to be desired.

The blue car can't ' turn straight' (whatever that means.)
The blue car can't 'turn right' as the direction of travel at the roundabout is left only.

The blue car emerging from the park, should enter the nearside lane and filter into the traffic, by giving way to cars already on the roundabout.

looks like the same as this incidence i was watching last week

Is the exit from the park beyond the roundabout? (So they have to turn left rather than drive onto the roundabout?)
Or can drivers access the roundabout?

See I was always taught you take the left lane of going straight ahead,

@ducksinarow123 You were taught wrongly.
You can use both lanes on a roundabout as long as you indicate. The outside lane is valid for anyone driving straight ahead, not just turning right.

It's shocking you are confused.

How do you think Red could have avoided this collision? After all, exactly the same thing would have happened if Red and Blue had entered the roundabout side-by-side, started signalling immediately after the carpark exit, then Blue had a 'moment' and decided to dive off to the right, into the path of Red.

Another pedantic MNer! Do you never get bored of it?

Blue car is in the wrong unless it had come out when it was clear and red car was flying at a ridiculous speed and overtook it.

I don't know what the chances are but I know this roundabout, I drive it often. You're not at fault in the slightest, blue car at fault.
Hope baby is ok.

So was Blue trying to take the same exit lane as you OP, or were they going for the second exit (from their perspective)?

I once saw a similar accident on a large multi-lane light-controlled roundabout. Lanes 1 and 2 were dedicated to the next exit (motorway on-slip) and lane 3 was for continuing around the roundabout. When the lights turned green, front car in lane 1 side-barged front car in lane 2. I was behind the latter and just watched open-mouthed as both cars span off into the undergrowth...

Which car had a man as the driver?

No that not correct, you have to use the left hand lane to go straight on unless it’s marked otherwise as it is in this case. In the absence of dual lanes on the road straight ahead ie single carriageway the left hand lane is the only correct one. Otherwise you’d have 2 lanes and only one exit!

It’s definitely the blue cars fault and I would be taking precisely 0 responsibility.

Blue car shouldn't have pulled out.

I think roundabouts need better lines indicating lanes. We have a roundabout near us, which is so badly designed there are constant dings on it. Instead of the council putting in proper road markings they've reduced the speed.

Any dashcam footage?

Sadly I don’t have a dashcam and it was quiet so there weren’t any witnesses. I’ll be rethinking that going forward!