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To think dad should have stopped babies touching handrails on the tube and then sticking their hands in their mouth after?

137 replies

bottomsup12 · 13/02/2024 08:30

Just that really? Saw a man holding his baby walking round the tube and letting the baby grab the rails etc and then just watching the child lick their hands after??

As a lifelong tube commuter I have seen people (blokes) scratching their arses or picking their noses and then casually grabbing the handrails.... to think a baby will be licking their hands after touching it horrifies me!

Would it be reasonable to have said something to the man?

OP posts:
fuckssaaaaake · 13/02/2024 15:58

I've spent many a tube ride telling my kid to stop sucking her thumb after she's touched it and following her round with sanitiser. I've given up. It's not killed her

Saymyname28 · 13/02/2024 16:01

YABU what a stupid thing to be judging people you don't even know over.

bagpuss90 · 13/02/2024 16:03

Well if that’s the worst they get ….

StarlightLime · 13/02/2024 16:03

I once saw a Mum pick up a very young baby's soother from the tube floor and stick it back in his mouth 🤮

Lolabear38 · 13/02/2024 16:04

You’re being ridiculous. Regardless of where you are, if you’re in public then communal surfaces are going to be covered in germs. It’s totally unreasonable to think that at some point anyone - child or not - won’t touch something and then at some point put their fingers in their mouth after. Unless you’re constantly sanitising your hands (which in itself isn’t good for you) , you’ve probably done it yourself. Granted the tube will be especially dirty but germs are germs. Mind your own business! Also consider how appreciative you would be if a stranger had approached you in public with such helpful advice. SMH.

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 13/02/2024 16:08

bottomsup12 · 13/02/2024 10:31

Yes this doesn't disprove the original point. I'm going to triggger a lot of mumsnetters here by saying I never touch those public buttons with fingers that would go anywhere near my own or my kids mouths... I'd use elbow or wrist and NO I don't think I'm better than everyone I of course used to touch them normally until I saw first hand the horrors of where people's hands go before they touch them things.

Baby crawls on the floor in the house of course. At soft play they clean it daily at least.... we're talking baby snot getting mixed up not sweaty bloke from a construction site scratching his arse and then your baby putting the hand in its mouth

A construction worker! 😱 How horrendous.

Is that worse than someone who works in a bank scratching their arse?

endofthelinefinally · 13/02/2024 16:16

SARS spread through an entire floor of a building just from one button in the lift.
I am immunosuppressed and I clean my hands frequently when using public transport and I never eat without washing or cleaning my hands.
I taught my dc to do the same and, honestly, We hardly had any tummy bugs in our house.

Ethylred · 13/02/2024 16:20

At least it wasn't the other way around. Now that would have been disgusting.

Aroundthewaygirl · 13/02/2024 16:40

I was never overzealous about things like this when my DD was a baby. She's pretty healthy now at 28 yrs old. Has only been sick maybe 3 or 4 times in her life.

SingingSands · 13/02/2024 16:54

These posts always make me think of my mum who was such a clean freak. One day she had finished cleaning the kitchen floor and thrown the dirty floor rag into a bucket in the utility then gotten distracted by the phone. She returned to the kitchen where she found my baby brother had crawled into the utility and was sitting on the dog's bed sucking the floor rag 😂

He survived - of course!

amylou8 · 13/02/2024 17:42

If you ever have a baby, because there's no possible way you already do, then never go to toddler group, and never ever ever go to soft play. The amount of dribbling and licking of everything that goes on in the those places would probably cause you to combust.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 18:04

Eightfour · 13/02/2024 12:19

@Jumpingthruhoops - Not touching any surfaces in public for fear of getting ill is disordered thinking. You might want to look into getting some support for that.

Thanks for guidance - but been there, seen it, done it, got the t-shirt!

Disorders aside, it's still important for people to protect themselves. Sanitiser doesn't kill all germs and baby wipes certainly don't! So not 'better than nothing' by a long way.

Respectfully, if you think that's sufficient, it's no wonder so many bugs go around.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 18:12

endofthelinefinally · 13/02/2024 16:16

SARS spread through an entire floor of a building just from one button in the lift.
I am immunosuppressed and I clean my hands frequently when using public transport and I never eat without washing or cleaning my hands.
I taught my dc to do the same and, honestly, We hardly had any tummy bugs in our house.

This! You'll often hear someone say: 'I picked up a bug.' And I think: 'Yes, you literally did!'

Like you, I try and avoid contact with high-touch points when I'm out, and don't eat or touch my face if I know my hands aren't scrupulously clean.

Rarely get colds and haven't had a stomach bug since the 1990s!!

Sneez · 13/02/2024 18:16

Absolutely gross and I wouldn’t let my babies do it! I wouldn’t have said anything though

Eightfour · 13/02/2024 18:23

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 18:04

Thanks for guidance - but been there, seen it, done it, got the t-shirt!

Disorders aside, it's still important for people to protect themselves. Sanitiser doesn't kill all germs and baby wipes certainly don't! So not 'better than nothing' by a long way.

Respectfully, if you think that's sufficient, it's no wonder so many bugs go around.

It’s better than nothing isn’t it which is what I said. I suggest hand washing as the ideal but you said that wasn’t always available so I gave some less good alternatives in a pinch. I am not going to play a game of hygiene top trumps with you. You may not like it but we are often exposed to germs and it’s not always a bad thing.

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 19:30

TawnyT · 13/02/2024 13:59

Genuinely interested in what OP and those who agree with OP, think is going to happen. Like what do you think you're preventing by only touching surfaces others have touched with your elbows? Are there any particular viruses or diseases you think are transferred in this manner?

And how do you do other daily tasks, like eating out where someone else has prepared your food, or using a public bathroom? Handling cash?

Do you find being out in public stressful? It just feels like a very anxiety inducing line of thought and I don't understand the logic.

Eh!? Colds, flu and D&V are all transmitted this way. Oh, and a virus called Covid!

A PP upthread explained how an entire floor of their company caught SARS from a lift button. People don't want to get ill if they can avoid it, which in many cases, you can. It really is simple logic. Not really much to 'understand'.

I avoid using public toilets where possible. No problem handling cash, just make sure I wash my hands as soon as I'm able. To be honest, I just do that routinely when I come in from being outside.

As for restaurants, I obviously apply some 'mind over matter' here, if I want any sort of social life. But I do pay close attention to hygiene ratings.

I'm 45 and I can count my brushes with those aforementioned viruses on one hand!

ChocolateCakeOverspill · 13/02/2024 19:36

Wasn’t Covid airborne in the end?

Jumpingthruhoops · 13/02/2024 19:36

Eightfour · 13/02/2024 18:23

It’s better than nothing isn’t it which is what I said. I suggest hand washing as the ideal but you said that wasn’t always available so I gave some less good alternatives in a pinch. I am not going to play a game of hygiene top trumps with you. You may not like it but we are often exposed to germs and it’s not always a bad thing.

Oh, I know, all of us are routinely exposed to germs on a daily basis, which can't be avoided. It's about being mindful of cross-contamination and viral load, to try and avoid infecting ourselves with those germs that could cause unpleasant or serious illness. I don't know why people wouldn't want to do that.

SummerDays2020 · 13/02/2024 19:42

I think it was worse that he was walking around the tube with the baby (was it moving?) I've been on a tube that stopped suddenly and wouldn't have wanted to have had a baby in my arms.

letmeeatinpeace · 13/02/2024 19:44

The hand rails are cleaned daily, so probably no more dirty than a soft play.

https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-2420-2122

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 19:49

Blimey. My two commuted on the tube every day as babies. They probably licked the floor sometimes. Immune systems of steel.

I don't sanitize my own hands every time I get off the tube (MN is full of people who do though).

It must be very wearing to see peril constantly.

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 20:02

You're not going to get TB from a tube train as a poster upthread thought. TB is caught from prolonged exposure, usually in the same house.

Honestly.

FrontalHeadache · 13/02/2024 20:12

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 19:49

Blimey. My two commuted on the tube every day as babies. They probably licked the floor sometimes. Immune systems of steel.

I don't sanitize my own hands every time I get off the tube (MN is full of people who do though).

It must be very wearing to see peril constantly.

MN is a gathering of the most anxious collection of human beings I have ever ‘met’. It’s mind-blowing to me.

Zone4flaneur · 13/02/2024 20:19

@FrontalHeadache isn't it. I am not sure they are real people.

Grah · 13/02/2024 20:20

And I bet when the child grows up it'll have less colds and stomach upsets than any child of a woman who disinfects everything.