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To not pick up dog poo...

757 replies

Moonfishstar · 13/02/2024 05:54

... when in a quiet forest, but to flick it with a stick into dense undergrowth instead?

I don't see any issue with this, but I've got a feeling lots will disagree with me, so I wanted to get some other opinions.

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RaisingTheDead · 13/02/2024 17:55

RubberyChicken · 13/02/2024 17:31

The forestry commission are responsible for the woods where I live and are happy with it,
'In the countryside, and where there is no livestock it is acceptable to take a stick and flick it out of the way. The Forestry Commission actively promotes the use of the ‘stick and flick’ method'.

They'd rather that then have twats bag it and hang it from a tree

The FC have changed their stance since the research about the damage that dog muck does has been published. They now ask you to bag it and take it away with you to dispose of.

No one should be leaving it in the countryside anymore.

Theminer · 13/02/2024 17:55

iOoOOoOi · 13/02/2024 17:44

@Prunesqualler @Theminer Where do you get the idea that there are less walkers these days? Is that true?

I think so. I haven’t looked into the stats for tourist spots for walking like the fells etc, only general walking.

I don’t live in a tourist area at all, and definitely ‘going for a walk’ is not a thing like it used to be. Many rights of way have effectively disappeared because people aren’t using them and there isn’t much to motivate land owners to maintain access.

RubberyChicken · 13/02/2024 17:59

RaisingTheDead · 13/02/2024 17:55

The FC have changed their stance since the research about the damage that dog muck does has been published. They now ask you to bag it and take it away with you to dispose of.

No one should be leaving it in the countryside anymore.

They need to change their website then as it still says stick and flick. Having wrong information doesn't help the situation

RaisingTheDead · 13/02/2024 18:00

RubberyChicken · 13/02/2024 17:59

They need to change their website then as it still says stick and flick. Having wrong information doesn't help the situation

Where? When I looked at their website it says dog mess should be bagged and removed

https://www.forestryengland.uk/dog-code

Your Forest Dog Code

Take the lead Forests are great spaces for your dog to enjoy, just make sure you know when you need to use the lead. Keep your eyes peeled Please respect other visitors, wildlife and livestock, keep your eyes open and your dog within sight. Have good c...

https://www.forestryengland.uk/dog-code

Clafoutie · 13/02/2024 18:38

I just don’t understand this.
Finding a stick, ‘flicking it’, having to discard stick there too, asking for opinions about it on here, after all that, wouldn’t it just be easier to pick the damn stuff up?! As others have said, if dog owners don’t want to carry it, they shouldn’t have a dog. Children and other dogs are exactly the ones who will roam off the beaten track, and it is disgusting if they end up in it( and they do).

SabrinaThwaite · 13/02/2024 18:47

RubberyChicken · 13/02/2024 17:31

The forestry commission are responsible for the woods where I live and are happy with it,
'In the countryside, and where there is no livestock it is acceptable to take a stick and flick it out of the way. The Forestry Commission actively promotes the use of the ‘stick and flick’ method'.

They'd rather that then have twats bag it and hang it from a tree

@RubberyChicken

Sigh. I’ll explain it again.

Forestry England manages the Forestry Commission woodland in England. Forestry England are not OK with it. I’ll even post its dog code. Again.

https://www.forestryengland.uk/dog-code

OP has already said they’re in Forestry England woodland.

cardibach · 13/02/2024 19:00

Veronicaisaflower · 13/02/2024 14:42

It's not the same, for god's sake! Dogs are NOT wildlife.

This makes their poo different to step in because…?
I don’t have a dog, for clarity.

Prunesqualler · 13/02/2024 19:31

iOoOOoOi · 13/02/2024 17:44

@Prunesqualler @Theminer Where do you get the idea that there are less walkers these days? Is that true?

Just by looking out of the window.
By walking
By footfall numbers and empty parking spaces

except For lockdown of course.

oOmoonhaOo · 13/02/2024 19:59

Milkmani · 13/02/2024 13:12

Nope it’s also gross, but it’s not intentional. Some people intentionally don’t pick up dog poo, that’s the issue. Maybe cat poo is a significant problem for some. But I don’t see it littering streets, parks, beaches and woodland 🤢Even in front of my neighbours drive the other morning, he had to pick up dog poo before he ran his car through it or his kids stepped in it - he doesn’t even have a dog. I was putting my child in the car at the same time. Grim.

That’s not the argument of this thread though… you’re right. Dog owners should pick up in those situations

oOmoonhaOo · 13/02/2024 20:01

This was my bike ride today… approx 800m at the top of a hill in Scotland. The undergrowth is actually quite dangerous for kids to play about in. I flicked my dog’s shit in there.

To not pick up dog poo...
oOmoonhaOo · 13/02/2024 20:03

Theminer · 13/02/2024 14:55

Not if the right to roam applies, as it frequently does.

Most forests are not right to roam… they’re working forests and it’s actually pretty fucking dangerous to be roaming

Dentistlakes · 13/02/2024 20:11

If it comes out of your dog’s arse it’s yours to bag and carry with you until you can bin it. Do not leaving it lying around to collect later (and then conveniently forget), or hang it from a tree (wtaf is that about!). Carry it until it goes in a bin. If you want a dog, it’s your responsibility to deal with its shit.

Theminer · 13/02/2024 20:17

oOmoonhaOo · 13/02/2024 20:03

Most forests are not right to roam… they’re working forests and it’s actually pretty fucking dangerous to be roaming

I can’t speak for the whole country, but the areas relevant to me day to day are common/open access areas, including woods/forests.

Theminer · 13/02/2024 20:25

Theminer · 13/02/2024 20:17

I can’t speak for the whole country, but the areas relevant to me day to day are common/open access areas, including woods/forests.

I’m enjoying the irony of being lectured on safety by someone who chucks dog shit around the place.

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SwirlyWhirls · 13/02/2024 20:41

Moonfishstar · 13/02/2024 06:39

I walk my dog in the local woods and it's covered in dog shit because of lazy, selfish, twats. Even my bloody dog stood in it at the weekend. 🤢

You wouldn't see the dog poo in my forest unless you went searching. I flick it under dense brambles or the like, so no kid, or even dog, is going to traipse through it.

I'm guessing there are quite a lot of city dwellers posting with their experience of small densely-used suburban woods... I'm talking about a large Forestry England forest that's about the size of a city!

Umm, how do you ensure you flick it entirely under the brambles and none goes on top? 🤮🤮🤮 Just pick it up, don’t be a dick.

goodkidsmaadhouse · 13/02/2024 20:42

oOmoonhaOo · 13/02/2024 20:01

This was my bike ride today… approx 800m at the top of a hill in Scotland. The undergrowth is actually quite dangerous for kids to play about in. I flicked my dog’s shit in there.

Slightly off topic but why is it dangerous for kids to play in there? My kids play in that sort of forest all the time. They climb, they scramble, they crawl…

SwirlyWhirls · 13/02/2024 20:43

Moonfishstar · 13/02/2024 06:48

  • OP: AIBU? Just about everyone: YABU OP: No I’m not! This was all a bit of a pointless exercise wasn’t it?*

Well, it's given me food for thought.

Given virtually all my dog-walker friends do this too, I suspect like most MN threads, the responses are highly self-selecting.

The fact that Forestry England are fine with this indicates it's not the big deal some are making it out to be.

Why ask if the response means absolutely nothing to you? 🤔

Papyrophile · 13/02/2024 21:30

I discern an urban-rural split. Locally, the right to roam around our open spaces is used mostly by middle-aged dog walkers and mountain bikers, because our trails are not suitable for small children or buggies. No sensible person would allow small kids to explore very far off the tracks because it was (in the 18th century) very intensively mined (for some extremely toxic minerals) and there are still remote sections where nobody could guarantee the land's stability. It's been re-forested but mostly with conifers, so the wildlife value is limited, and the terrain is generally steep with some sheer drops. The primary recreational users are downhill mountain bikers looking for adrenalin thrills, and they know they need body protection gear. They also know that they are at least an hour from the arrival of an emergency ambulance, once reported. So there are bigger hazards than dog shit.

Papyrophile · 13/02/2024 21:32

Actually, the most likely cohort to put themselves in danger, are tourists from cities.

Herdinggoats · 13/02/2024 21:38

Theminer · 13/02/2024 20:17

I can’t speak for the whole country, but the areas relevant to me day to day are common/open access areas, including woods/forests.

Well as 92% of England and Wales is not right to roam that is pretty unusual

YeOldeGreyhound · 13/02/2024 21:38

From my understanding, 'stick and flick' is acceptable in some places.

Personally, I would not do it. That is because I would probably flick in into my face! Blush

I was once caught short of poo bags in the local park, and there were no other dog walkers about to ask for a bag. So I did the 'stick' bit, and carried it over to a poo bin. I must have looked like an idiot that was doing some weird version of dowsing.

Milkmani · 13/02/2024 21:41

oOmoonhaOo · 13/02/2024 19:59

That’s not the argument of this thread though… you’re right. Dog owners should pick up in those situations

It’s clear from this thread that the majority of people think it’s gross that dog owners keep flicking shit about because they’re rural and can do what they like. It’s disgusting, everyone is fed up with dog poo regardless of location.

surreygirl1987 · 13/02/2024 21:45

It’s clear from this thread that the majority of people think it’s gross that dog owners keep flicking shit about because they’re rural and can do what they like. It’s disgusting, everyone is fed up with dog poo regardless of location.

Exactly!

Papyrophile · 13/02/2024 21:47

Only if you live in a densely populated area. I don't.