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For taking a break from my bestie? (Long post - sorry)

70 replies

LondonLupie · 12/02/2024 16:43

I initially bonded with her son when he was two years old at a mutual friend's house, which led to us developing a solid friendship whereby I would babysit him often (before I had my own son 3 years ago). Over time, I started to realise that my friend has significant intellectual/learning disabilities (e.g. dyslexia) and struggles with managing her daily life. For e.g. she cannot budget and has had her phone cut-off many times in addition to being in rent and nursery fees arrears. She also forgets when it's school holidays for her son and I've had to step in as she didn't organise childcare for him and had to work (luckily I work from home). I also had to remind her to apply for schools for her youngest child for this year, I often fill in forms on her behalf, read/explain letters to her and help her clean her home (she's a borderline hoarder). I even contacted Adult Social Services on her behalf last year to see if she could get some support, but they said without a diagnosis they can't help her. She still hasn't gone to the GP to start the ball rolling on assessments either.

Last year, we went through her expenses so that she could see what she has coming in and what goes out each month. She works part-time in a hairdressers in Chelsea and her income is heavily subsidised by UC. Her children's fathers pay as little as £10-£30 per month (we tried going via Child Maintenance but it came back stating they wouldn't have to pay her anything as they're both 'unemployed'). Her youngest's father has 5 kids in total (5 different women) and is taking his eldest son to the Caribbean this summer. I kid you not.

Despite all of this, my friend doesn't bat an eyelid to book overseas holidays and buy unnecessary things. She usually takes the kids to a caravan park every summer in addition to a European holiday in April - but this year she plans to take two overseas trips instead of one, and I told her that it's not sensible to do so as she doesn't have the funds for it. She kept insisting that she'll find a way to pay for both trips (April and August) and was adamant about going, but when I reminded her that even a cheap holiday, say £300-400 per person, would amount to £1200 plus spending money, airport taxis, etc, she still refused to see sense, and I lost it.

I have spent years trying to help her get her life in order. I've spent hours on the phone with her whilst she cried/whined about one crisis after another. I've taken care of her kids free of charge on more occasions than I can count (but she's had my son a total of 2 times). I've offered practical solutions and guidance on how she can improve her situation (weight-loss, better career, healthy co-parenting strategies, budgeting, etc), but it all seems to fall on deaf ears.

We both agreed to get the kids Xmas presents last year, so I bought for her two and she didn't get anything for my son and decided not to say anything hoping I wouldn't notice. When I asked her about it, she explained that she didn't have any money left and would get him something in January. Another instance, it was my 40th birthday earlier this month and I organised a dinner for all my friends and informed everyone in early Jan about it. She messaged me the day before saying she couldn't come because she's skint (my friends all chipped in and covered the cost of her meal and drinks anyways).

As a single mother myself raising a child with suspected autism and still working a full-time career of 18 years, I no longer have the emotional bandwidth for trying to help someone who won't help themself. Yesterday's row showed me just how much her problems are starting to affect me and our friendship. I don't feel like her friend anymore... I feel more like a weary parent, social worker and therapist all rolled into one and I'm DRAINED. I don't have to do this with any of my other friends and I'm starting to feel resentful - especially as she won't follow through on any of the actions/goals we set for her annually.

Today, I called her and explained that as much as I care for her, I need to take a step back from our friendship because I don't like the way her problems are affecting me, and taking up so much of my life. She was understanding and shared that she thinks a break would be good and she would get round to doing things in her own time (but realistically, we both know she has no intention of doing so). Now I feel guilty for abandoning her when she clearly needs help, but don't want to be her rescuer for the rest of my life.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Daffodilsandsunshine · 12/02/2024 16:56

You're her lifecoach/social worker, not her friend. If shes not listening then drop the rope and walk away. Guarantee she'll find someone else to mother her.

TimetoPour · 12/02/2024 16:59

You cannot help someone who is unwilling to help themselves.

YesItsMe44 · 12/02/2024 17:05

You are doing the right thing for you. If you're not taking care of yourself, you will not be able to give to those who need you most, your children.

KnowledgeableMomma · 12/02/2024 17:09

Why would you feel guilty? Even she "thinks a break would be good". She's not feeling sad at the prospect of not seeing you. You've been everything for her and she has given nothing back. You've absolutely made the right choice.

HurdyGurdy19 · 12/02/2024 17:15

You have gone above and beyond the calls of a friendship and you are absolutely right to take a step back and practice some self-care.

It may be that without you propping her up all the time, she will get the wake up call she needs, and will start to do all the necessary tasks.

But you cannot constantly be there, more as a PA than a friend.

nutbrownhare15 · 12/02/2024 17:18

Your role as her life coach/carer clearly suits neither of you. I'd just treat her as a friend and set some boundaries as you would with other friends e.g. Don't keep making an effort if it isn't reciprocated set limits on your ability to be their counsellor if it starts to get draining, etc.

BlueGrey1 · 12/02/2024 19:19

That sounds exhausting, it’s good to want to help people but your priority needs to be yourself and your son,

I honestly wouldn’t have the time, energy or mental headspace to have a close friendship with someone like that

I would feel guilty aswell but iI would still step back…..if you have the time and energy in the future you can spend some time helping her again

Beautiful3 · 12/02/2024 19:27

You blurred the boundaries by behaving like her mother. Not even her mother is as involved as you were. I'd completely back off. She's just a friend you invite out for drinks and meals. Stop babysitting, she is just using you. She won't die if you withdraw your help, you know. She'll sort it because she's a competent adult. She knows where to go for help, if she doesn't then that's on her, not you. She clearly isn't bothered about buying christmas presents for your kids, nor your birthday. She has money but prefers to prioritise holidays. Stop letting her treat you and your kids badly.

LondonLupie · 13/02/2024 11:26

Beautiful3 · 12/02/2024 19:27

You blurred the boundaries by behaving like her mother. Not even her mother is as involved as you were. I'd completely back off. She's just a friend you invite out for drinks and meals. Stop babysitting, she is just using you. She won't die if you withdraw your help, you know. She'll sort it because she's a competent adult. She knows where to go for help, if she doesn't then that's on her, not you. She clearly isn't bothered about buying christmas presents for your kids, nor your birthday. She has money but prefers to prioritise holidays. Stop letting her treat you and your kids badly.

@Beautiful3 yes, I've definitely taken on a parenting role with her. Even more so because her elderly adopted parents both died within a year of each other and her bio parents are not fit to be around. She has an adopted older brother, but they seem to have drifted apart in the last two years. I definitely have been over playing my part, but will take a much needed step back now. Thank you.

OP posts:
LondonLupie · 13/02/2024 11:32

KnowledgeableMomma · 12/02/2024 17:09

Why would you feel guilty? Even she "thinks a break would be good". She's not feeling sad at the prospect of not seeing you. You've been everything for her and she has given nothing back. You've absolutely made the right choice.

I think the guilt stems from the fact that she is technically vulnerable and when left to her own devices, she makes very bad decisions... Now she has two kids as opposed to one when I met her, I see her struggle even more. It's so hard watching someone just exist - without direction, motivation and a plan. I want to see her win, but I can't do the work for her.

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2023NEWMUM2023 · 13/02/2024 11:45

Sorry to hear this OP. You did the right thing stepping back for your own sake and your friend needs to live her own life even if it is chaotic. People need to want to change and help themselves.
I have a friend who often has drama or a crisis and I used to provide support and lend money for rent deposit, car MOT, children's Christmas etc (which I've never had back). Now I've got a LO and my friend has met him just twice. Looking back I've realised whilst I've always enjoyed the time spent with her it has always been been me arranging to do things, going round to her house etc. and she only tended to contact me if she needed something. I feel like a bit of a mug. So sadly I've taken a step back and focusing on my own family. I still feel guilty sometimes.

takealettermsjones · 13/02/2024 11:51

You have really helped her, and maybe some of your suggestions, strategies etc will stay in her mind going forwards. You're a good person. You can step back from this now and you'll still be a good person.

Spanglemum75 · 13/02/2024 12:16

You need to step back. Often people with dsylexia/ADHD etc etc have problems with what's called 'executive function', planning and organisation. It sounds like this is her. She can't change unless she wants to and hopefully some of your advice will have stuck.

Babsexxx · 13/02/2024 12:31

You seem far to invested?! Are you qualified to diagnose this friend?! And contacting adult social services about her was way out of line I’m glad they advised that they cannot help because she isn’t diagnosed!

Some things are saying comes across as really jealous in regards to her holidays! Who on earth cares if her child’s father wants to take him on holiday?! Because he has 5 kids.

I wouldn’t want you as a “friend”.

Babsexxx · 13/02/2024 12:34

Put it this way I know NON of my friends finances I find this entire post creepy I’ve never seen this situation?! Not ever just my opinion…..

OriginalUsername2 · 13/02/2024 12:42

Some people just aren’t capable of thinking at a level of “building a future” and “self-improvement” because of how their brain is wired, upbringing, genes, intellectual ability, current situation, etc.

You’re expecting her to function and think like you do.

chiwwy · 13/02/2024 12:50

You did the right thing.

It's good she took it well.

Don't cave in in a few weeks. If you resume the friendship, maintain boundaries. No childcare, no gifts, no form filling.

Dweetfidilove · 13/02/2024 12:51

You have done all you can, probably more than you should have, and can step back now.

In time you will come to realise just how much you invested, and how valuable that time will be for your relaxation or looking after your own affairs.

You're still being a good friend, as instead of ghosting her, you’ve made it clear why you need to distance yourself.

Mariposistaaa · 13/02/2024 13:17

You did right. You deserve better (and sadly so does her child). She needs proper help if she is to continue caring for him.

Someonescatmum · 13/02/2024 13:23

I am in a very similar situation with a friend of mine. I realised I wasn't really a friend of hers as she never asked me whether I was ok or remembered events going on in my life.

Is she actually a friend to you? It has to be reciprocal?

InBedBy10 · 13/02/2024 13:28

Babsexxx · 13/02/2024 12:31

You seem far to invested?! Are you qualified to diagnose this friend?! And contacting adult social services about her was way out of line I’m glad they advised that they cannot help because she isn’t diagnosed!

Some things are saying comes across as really jealous in regards to her holidays! Who on earth cares if her child’s father wants to take him on holiday?! Because he has 5 kids.

I wouldn’t want you as a “friend”.

I agree with this

I know you mean well but it's coming across judgemental. I know alot of people like her who are perfectly happy living week to week, always owing money out and spending more than they have. It's not the life I'd like but it's non of my business.

JMSA · 13/02/2024 13:31

Just leave her to it. It's the only way.

She'd have done my head in long ago.

Babsexxx · 13/02/2024 14:57

Sorry but I can’t believe the level of sympathy for this woman I’m soo concerned that she’s invested soo much of her life into this “friend” it’s absolutely crackers. I don’t know any single one of my friends financials including my best friend?!! Mental.

im wondering if op has a hobby any other friends etc?! Why soo much focus it’s really bitchy aswell to say she is heavily subsidised by uc?! There are too many flags on this post to make me believe she’s just a “good friend!” 90% of it is absolutely non of her business.

LondonLupie · 13/02/2024 17:11

InBedBy10 · 13/02/2024 13:28

I agree with this

I know you mean well but it's coming across judgemental. I know alot of people like her who are perfectly happy living week to week, always owing money out and spending more than they have. It's not the life I'd like but it's non of my business.

She was the one who broke down to me last year and admitted she needed help. I reached out to Adult Social Services after asking her if that was OK. I would never do that without her consent, I'm not an a**hole.

Before making grossly wrong assumptions about me and my intentions, make sure you have the facts first. Otherwise, if neither of you @Babsexxx @InBedBy10 have nothing useful to add, please bog off. Thanks.

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Babsexxx · 13/02/2024 17:59

You have stated things in your post that are far longer than a year! You really need to get a life without sounding bitchy do you have any idea how your post comes across?! Not as innocent as you perceived!

Wow big off because shock horror people have a different perspective to you?! I think you look batshit tbh I didn’t want to be that harsh but now il get there…her life isn’t YOUR business.