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AIBU?

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For taking a break from my bestie? (Long post - sorry)

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LondonLupie · 12/02/2024 16:43

I initially bonded with her son when he was two years old at a mutual friend's house, which led to us developing a solid friendship whereby I would babysit him often (before I had my own son 3 years ago). Over time, I started to realise that my friend has significant intellectual/learning disabilities (e.g. dyslexia) and struggles with managing her daily life. For e.g. she cannot budget and has had her phone cut-off many times in addition to being in rent and nursery fees arrears. She also forgets when it's school holidays for her son and I've had to step in as she didn't organise childcare for him and had to work (luckily I work from home). I also had to remind her to apply for schools for her youngest child for this year, I often fill in forms on her behalf, read/explain letters to her and help her clean her home (she's a borderline hoarder). I even contacted Adult Social Services on her behalf last year to see if she could get some support, but they said without a diagnosis they can't help her. She still hasn't gone to the GP to start the ball rolling on assessments either.

Last year, we went through her expenses so that she could see what she has coming in and what goes out each month. She works part-time in a hairdressers in Chelsea and her income is heavily subsidised by UC. Her children's fathers pay as little as £10-£30 per month (we tried going via Child Maintenance but it came back stating they wouldn't have to pay her anything as they're both 'unemployed'). Her youngest's father has 5 kids in total (5 different women) and is taking his eldest son to the Caribbean this summer. I kid you not.

Despite all of this, my friend doesn't bat an eyelid to book overseas holidays and buy unnecessary things. She usually takes the kids to a caravan park every summer in addition to a European holiday in April - but this year she plans to take two overseas trips instead of one, and I told her that it's not sensible to do so as she doesn't have the funds for it. She kept insisting that she'll find a way to pay for both trips (April and August) and was adamant about going, but when I reminded her that even a cheap holiday, say £300-400 per person, would amount to £1200 plus spending money, airport taxis, etc, she still refused to see sense, and I lost it.

I have spent years trying to help her get her life in order. I've spent hours on the phone with her whilst she cried/whined about one crisis after another. I've taken care of her kids free of charge on more occasions than I can count (but she's had my son a total of 2 times). I've offered practical solutions and guidance on how she can improve her situation (weight-loss, better career, healthy co-parenting strategies, budgeting, etc), but it all seems to fall on deaf ears.

We both agreed to get the kids Xmas presents last year, so I bought for her two and she didn't get anything for my son and decided not to say anything hoping I wouldn't notice. When I asked her about it, she explained that she didn't have any money left and would get him something in January. Another instance, it was my 40th birthday earlier this month and I organised a dinner for all my friends and informed everyone in early Jan about it. She messaged me the day before saying she couldn't come because she's skint (my friends all chipped in and covered the cost of her meal and drinks anyways).

As a single mother myself raising a child with suspected autism and still working a full-time career of 18 years, I no longer have the emotional bandwidth for trying to help someone who won't help themself. Yesterday's row showed me just how much her problems are starting to affect me and our friendship. I don't feel like her friend anymore... I feel more like a weary parent, social worker and therapist all rolled into one and I'm DRAINED. I don't have to do this with any of my other friends and I'm starting to feel resentful - especially as she won't follow through on any of the actions/goals we set for her annually.

Today, I called her and explained that as much as I care for her, I need to take a step back from our friendship because I don't like the way her problems are affecting me, and taking up so much of my life. She was understanding and shared that she thinks a break would be good and she would get round to doing things in her own time (but realistically, we both know she has no intention of doing so). Now I feel guilty for abandoning her when she clearly needs help, but don't want to be her rescuer for the rest of my life.

AIBU?

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LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 14:43

Happyinarcon · 14/02/2024 11:49

I was also in this situation once, I kept digging her out of holes and she kept digging herself new ones. She had young children surrounded by neglect and chaos, but never quite enough for social services to get involved. The way I looked at was that my support for her was entirely for the sake of her children. I wanted them to feel like their mum had friends and there was always a familiar face. I aimed to be a dependable figure who they could turn to for backup so they didn’t feel so alone. I think in your place I would scale back the full on support, but be a happy reassuring face for the kids.

I really appreciate your feedback on this! I really do adore her kids and she also said to pop round anytime I want to see them when I mentioned us taking a break. There's no bad blood between us, but I can't give her the support she needs.

Totally agree, I need to step back and let her figure things out on her own. ❤

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LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 14:48

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 14/02/2024 12:14

I understand exactly how you ended up here. My 'bestie' turned out the same. It took many years for me to realise that she always needed rescuing.

When I noticed that it was us (dh & I) doing all of the rescuing in the past 9 years, it was like a light bulb moment.

I ended up having a frank discussion with her and she was shocked. I don't think our friendship can recover really, as she doesn't seem to be able to help herself, but I'm kind of stuck with her. I have a small cottage on my property that I rent to her at well below market value and we have realised that there is no way she could ever move. She cannot afford anything else and I cannot morally throw her out on the street, knowing her financial position.

It's a shame, as it was meant to be temporary and then my son was going to move in there.

Mumsnet warned me to give her notice a few years ago and I didn't listen.

Now we are landlord and tenant and nothing more.🙁

Gosh, that's such a sticky situation you're in, I feel it for you. It's nuts how quickly you go from merely helping a friend, to becoming their rescuer of sorts.

I didn't even realise I had taken on that role until the other day, when we had a row. Now looking back, I can see the warning signs, but was so eager to help her and the kids that I didn't heed the warnings.

Hope you find a solution to your issue eventually.

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Watercolourpapier · 14/02/2024 14:54

She sounds like a disabled person trying to cope in a world that wasnt designed for her to succeed in.

You didn't have to give her so much help over the years, it was nice of you to do so so it's a good thing you're enforcing a boundary now. Unfortunately society fucks over disabled people every day - not entitled to any help (even then it's barely anything) until you get a diagnosis but waiting lists are literally years long. She's not been flaky, forgetful and difficult because she doesn't care about you. She literally can't help it. I'm glad you're still going to be there and that you've told her that's what you doing otherwise she would probably worry she's upset you.

everythingthelighttouches · 14/02/2024 14:54

It sounds like you formed an attachment to a vulnerable person and performed several roles for them but I’m not sure to what end.

I’m not saying it is wrong or deliberately toxic but from your own description it sounds highly unusual and dysfunctional.

I think it is in both your best interests to distance yourselves

You have framed this as a friendship in your mind and so hearing people say that it doesn’t sound that way is understandably difficult for gpu to hear.

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 15:01

Hereforthedramaz · 14/02/2024 14:43

Not the point of the thread and I appreciate it was an e.g. but dyslexia is not an intellectual disability

I never said it was. But she has been diagnosed from childhood with mental retardation in addition to dyslexia and other things. She has told me this herself and admitted to attendeding SEN schools whilst growing up.

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WeeOrcadian · 14/02/2024 15:34

I haven't RTFT

You're enabling her

Take a step back

VickyEadieofThigh · 14/02/2024 15:36

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 15:01

I never said it was. But she has been diagnosed from childhood with mental retardation in addition to dyslexia and other things. She has told me this herself and admitted to attendeding SEN schools whilst growing up.

"Mental retardation"? Eek!

OkPedro · 14/02/2024 15:48

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 15:01

I never said it was. But she has been diagnosed from childhood with mental retardation in addition to dyslexia and other things. She has told me this herself and admitted to attendeding SEN schools whilst growing up.

You're coming across as quite goady now 😏

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:17

everythingthelighttouches · 14/02/2024 14:54

It sounds like you formed an attachment to a vulnerable person and performed several roles for them but I’m not sure to what end.

I’m not saying it is wrong or deliberately toxic but from your own description it sounds highly unusual and dysfunctional.

I think it is in both your best interests to distance yourselves

You have framed this as a friendship in your mind and so hearing people say that it doesn’t sound that way is understandably difficult for gpu to hear.

Yes, I've never had any friendships like this before and it's highly dysfunctional but it IS a friendship regardless of how others may perceive it. And I genuinely don't believe she's out to take advantage of me, she just lacks a lot of social skills that many of us have and doesn't see things the way I, or others do.

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LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:18

OkPedro · 14/02/2024 15:48

You're coming across as quite goady now 😏

Just presenting facts so that people can stop making assumptions. Take it as you will.

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LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:19

VickyEadieofThigh · 14/02/2024 15:36

"Mental retardation"? Eek!

Intellectually disabled if you prefer.

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Barrenfieldoffucks · 14/02/2024 16:23

To be honest, it very much sounds like you are only wanting one kind of response. What were you hoping to get from this post?

"Mental retardation"

"Admitting" to going to an SEN school...very odd phrasing

everythingthelighttouches · 14/02/2024 16:26

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:17

Yes, I've never had any friendships like this before and it's highly dysfunctional but it IS a friendship regardless of how others may perceive it. And I genuinely don't believe she's out to take advantage of me, she just lacks a lot of social skills that many of us have and doesn't see things the way I, or others do.

There’s no question whether she has taken deliberate advantage of you. She is vulnerable and probably not able to do this.

The question is why did you form an attachment to her??

Can you see why others are saying this dysfunctional relationship is not a genuine friendship?

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:29

Barrenfieldoffucks · 14/02/2024 16:23

To be honest, it very much sounds like you are only wanting one kind of response. What were you hoping to get from this post?

"Mental retardation"

"Admitting" to going to an SEN school...very odd phrasing

Just presenting facts but some of you are hell bent on finding fault with the information given, so I won't bother anymore.

I initially stated in my original post that she has significant intellectual disabilities but you and others conveniently skipped over that so you could find something else to get angry over. Weird, but whatever floats your boat I guess... 😊

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MrBanana · 14/02/2024 16:31

I think you have likely crossed the line from being helpful to enabling and you’re right to protect your own well being and cut her off.

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:31

everythingthelighttouches · 14/02/2024 16:26

There’s no question whether she has taken deliberate advantage of you. She is vulnerable and probably not able to do this.

The question is why did you form an attachment to her??

Can you see why others are saying this dysfunctional relationship is not a genuine friendship?

I've already explained this, feel free to read through previous comments.

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Barrenfieldoffucks · 14/02/2024 16:34

Not in the slightest bit angry, but you seem unable to take any opinion which doesn't paint you as the ever long suffering sainted 'bestie'. Hence wondering why you posted for input or opinions.

LondonLupie · 14/02/2024 16:41

Barrenfieldoffucks · 14/02/2024 16:34

Not in the slightest bit angry, but you seem unable to take any opinion which doesn't paint you as the ever long suffering sainted 'bestie'. Hence wondering why you posted for input or opinions.

I have no issue with a difference of opinions, but some of you are making wild assumptions about me, or just attacking me unnecessarily which I don't care for really. How you choose to interpret my words is up to you, but I won't stand for outright hostility or disrespect. I didn't come here for that.

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flexigirl · 14/02/2024 17:02

You sound like a really lovely friend and she's massively taking the piss! I think you need to go non contact and rid yourself of her completely . God you deserve better than that draining dementor op

Watercolourpapier · 14/02/2024 17:14

flexigirl · 14/02/2024 17:02

You sound like a really lovely friend and she's massively taking the piss! I think you need to go non contact and rid yourself of her completely . God you deserve better than that draining dementor op

Shes disabled. She's not a dementor if the help was freely offered.

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