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Porn should be illegal

86 replies

Beatrixemerald · 11/02/2024 19:39

I know lots of people enjoy it harmless blah blah but I just read about four boys aged 12-14 being arrested for rape and it’s made me think about the damage porn is doing to young people. They may not have been exposed to porn but I suspect that’s highly unlikely.
My understanding is that violent porn/strangulation etc has become the norm and I think teens are getting a totally distorted view of sex/consent.
Ultimately on balance I can’t see any place for it in society and I consider myself pretty liberal minded ie what consenting adults want to do is totally fine but that porn is distorting and normalising things that naturally people wouldn’t choose to do. AIBU?

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Midnlghtrain · 11/02/2024 19:41

Making it illegal would just push it onto the black market and put people at risk 🤷🏻‍♀️

peachgreen · 11/02/2024 19:42

Making it illegal won’t help, but I do wish that there was more open discussion about its potential harms, and tighter controls on access.

MountainBarbie · 11/02/2024 19:42

I'm sure lots of teenagers access it and barely any of them go on to rape someone, if they're doing that it isn't from watching porn they have some serious further issues.

Pigeonqueen · 11/02/2024 19:43

If it was illegal it wouldn’t stop people making it and people watching that instead.

What needs to happen is better controls for younger people on social media and on the internet in general so they can’t watch all this shit.

HelloMiss · 11/02/2024 19:48

It's for adults....kids should be better monitored

JMSA · 11/02/2024 19:51

I wish that it didn't exist in the first place.

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 11/02/2024 19:57

Rape predates the Internet by a couple of millenia. Don't be ridiculous you can't ban porn.

tenbob · 11/02/2024 20:00

Porn has been around as long as humans could draw

Rape and assault probably even longer.

There is clearly a link between them in some cases but it can only be overcome by education and harm reduction, not bans

Prohibition has never worked in any situation ever. Not porn, not booze, not drugs. If anything, it can cause even more harm

PaperDoIIs · 11/02/2024 20:01

I don't know about making it illegal, but I definitely don't think it should be so available and free.

BobbyBiscuits · 11/02/2024 20:02

It would make it worse if it was. It's grim, and I can't handle watching it. I used to and it made me get into some kinks that were more than i would usually do, put it that way. No harm luckily but I see your point. Anyone can make porn now, and an AI can do it too. So banning it aint gonna happen unless you ban sex or the internet. Sad but true.

BlackBean2023 · 11/02/2024 20:03

Rape and murder (of women) had been prevalent for centuries. Well before porn and the internet.

Misogyny is the problem. As a human race we seem hell bent on ensuring it thrives- until every person with a vagina (there are no women now) makes a stand this will just continue.

HRTQueen · 11/02/2024 20:05

I think porn sites should be better regulated and managed

Likening porn is not the issue it’s being able to view porn 24/7 and for many their taste becomes more extreme and it’s too easy to view violent porn

I think it should be pay to view

fedupwithbeinghot · 11/02/2024 20:06

Making something illegal won't make it disappear. Otherwise there would be no child crack addicts.

What should be illegal is having children when you have zero varietie capacity or will to bring them up properly. How have those children been brought up to end up in that situation?

takealettermsjones · 11/02/2024 20:07

I'm very much live and let live, but I think violent porn should be illegal. I don't understand why it's fine to watch videos of women getting slapped, choked, etc. I know that some people will say it's BDSM, it's consensual, don't kink shame etc... but I've dipped into this debate on twitter and seen stills, and you can see actual fear on the women's faces. Whether they're acting or not, that's sending an appalling message.

I also think that viewing any extreme porn from a given IP address or phone should lead to a letter in the post being sent to the bill payer, listing the content that's been viewed. Safeguarding children and catching sneaky husbands in one fell swoop, winner! 😂

SausageTolls · 11/02/2024 20:08

It should be the opposite of illegal.

It should be highly regulated, with photo ID required to purchase it and records kept.

The actors should be in unions, looked after, supported and cared for.

It needs more control, not less.

CranfordScones · 11/02/2024 20:09

If porn really influenced violent attacks then its current proliferation would give rise to a massive spike in violence.

In fact there's never been less violence and murder in the history of humanity than right now. We live in a golden age of personal safety. Yes, really.

SausageTolls · 11/02/2024 20:09

A ratings system and on screen warnings, followed by cast interviews showing them as real actors too.

DefendingPan · 11/02/2024 20:10

Midnlghtrain · 11/02/2024 19:41

Making it illegal would just push it onto the black market and put people at risk 🤷🏻‍♀️

Do you use this argument to advance the public availability 24/7 of all drugs or guns without any age verification? Because that’s the status quo with porn and I’ve never understood the claim that criminalising something doesn’t reduce consumption and it’s almost always made by people who are either pro gun laws or pro drug laws.

If you're a literal Ancap who supports all these things being legal then at least that’s consistent otherwise maybe think about why you apply different standards to one thing over another?

Dara99 · 11/02/2024 20:12

I think it needs to be really tough to access. Aka you have to sign up to a site and enter credit card details or some other kind of verification. The fact that you can type 'porn' into a search engine and be watching people being slapped, strangled and spat at within a few clicks is the problem. The fact that you can stumble across it is worrying. I have typed something really very innocent into Google before and come across pornographic images that I didn't want to see, and I have safe search on.

Vettrianofan · 11/02/2024 20:13

One of my DC was sexually assaulted by a 7yo who watched gay porn. Definitely shouldn't be so accessible for children. This was a decade ago.

Midnlghtrain · 11/02/2024 20:14

@DefendingPan

I don't think drugs or guns should be publicly available without age verification 😂 sign yourself up for the Olympics because that was the longest jump I've ever seen!

There's a difference between illegal and regulated 🤷 I don't think it should be illegal at all, I didn't say it shouldn't be regulated.

mondaytosunday · 11/02/2024 20:14

If illegal you think kids won't access it? It will be out there.

Dara99 · 11/02/2024 20:15

Vettrianofan · 11/02/2024 20:13

One of my DC was sexually assaulted by a 7yo who watched gay porn. Definitely shouldn't be so accessible for children. This was a decade ago.

I think you commented on my thread earlier, re my friend's 6yo accidentally clicking on porn on her phone. It's worrying. Again, so sorry you had to go through this.

TinySaltLick · 11/02/2024 20:17

DefendingPan · 11/02/2024 20:10

Do you use this argument to advance the public availability 24/7 of all drugs or guns without any age verification? Because that’s the status quo with porn and I’ve never understood the claim that criminalising something doesn’t reduce consumption and it’s almost always made by people who are either pro gun laws or pro drug laws.

If you're a literal Ancap who supports all these things being legal then at least that’s consistent otherwise maybe think about why you apply different standards to one thing over another?

In the UK guns are allowed in specific circumstances - tightly regulated with controls which result in very little gun crime

Countries which decriminalise drugs see significant reductions in usage and associated crime.

When you say 'you've never understood' have you done any reading or research whatsoever, you might find it quite enlightening

BarelyLiterate · 11/02/2024 20:18

YABU.

If you don’t like porn, don’t watch it. But don’t try to impose your views on others in what is supposed to be a free country.

I have no time for this sort of censorious, outdated nonsense. I thought we as a society had progressed beyond the authoritarian state deciding what I am allowed to watch, see and read. Fuck that. It isn’t the 1950s any more and we shouldn’t be trying to turn the clock back to the hypocritical Puritanism of that era.