Porn should be illegal

[Beatrixemerald]

I know lots of people enjoy it harmless blah blah but I just read about four boys aged 12-14 being arrested for rape and it’s made me think about the damage porn is doing to young people. They may not have been exposed to porn but I suspect that’s highly unlikely.
My understanding is that violent porn/strangulation etc has become the norm and I think teens are getting a totally distorted view of sex/consent.
Ultimately on balance I can’t see any place for it in society and I consider myself pretty liberal minded ie what consenting adults want to do is totally fine but that porn is distorting and normalising things that naturally people wouldn’t choose to do. AIBU?

Kids can get access to it, get ideas and then assault others. But carry on with your views. Easy to be so blasé about your rights if you don't live with a child who was traumatised.

I am talking about a SEVEN year old child here. Seven. Watching porn. Disgusting.

This really. It's the fact that it's so easily available,no thought,no process ,no effort. The average 5 year old could find and access it. It's that easy

Just to confirm, the current situation with porn is that it is available 24/7 to anyone of any age with no restrictions to speak of.

Are you suggesting this should be the case for machine guns and cocaine?

If not my point stands. If criminalisation doesn’t reduce ownership, distribution or availability why criminalise cocaine and machine guns?

Clearly criminalisation does in fact reduce consumption.

You can be for or against criminalising porn but can we at least be honest that it would reduce consumption?

The culture is everywhere.

I was off work sick last week and ended up watching some trashy show with Rylan in it called 'Hot Mess Summer'.

It was a Love Island sort of thing but based around running a bar. One of the lads was chatting to a group of patrons, and anyway he was sort of chatting her up he SPAT in her mouth (he did ask her consent first).

Then there was a whole drama about how he "spat in some girl's mouth"

BUT

NOT because it's repulsive to spit in someone's mouth but because he was kind of already seeing someone so it was cheating.

So all these 20ish year olds thought it was COMPLETELY NORMAL for a man to spit in the mouth of a girl he's just met, it's only gossip because it was cheating on the original girl.

And I thought NO ONE spat in people's mouths as a chat up or a sexual act AT ALL when I was their age in the 90s.

And that's porn culture. Right there. Fucking revolting.

As many others have said making it illegal would create more problems. It needs better regulation.

What we really need is parents taking responsibility for their kids and starting to parent.

67% of girls and young women aged 13-18 surveyed have experienced sexual harassment at school from another student, and that 29% first experienced sexual harassment when they were just 11-13 years old.

90% of recorded offences of rape in 2018–19 of 13- to 15-year-olds were committed against girls.[footnote 15], [footnote 16] In the past year, girls aged between 15 and 17 reported the highest annual rates of sexual abuse for young people and children aged 25 and younger.[footnote 17]

So safe . 🙄

That's the second post in a row you've accused someone of supporting some fictional diametrically opposed position because they pointed out a flaw in your bumbling position.

You said 'I’ve never understood the claim that criminalising something doesn’t reduce consumption'

As mentioned there is a great body of work which shows, with drugs specifically - including the ones you mention, that shows this is in fact the case.

I'm not why you feel the need to lash out claiming this therefore means machine guns should be given to children, that's both absurd and a completely different issue

Making it illegal won't work that genie is out of the bottle. Also I think blaming porn for behaviour from spitting to rape is not entirely accurate.

While watching something can de sensitise someone, I believe there are more complex issues. Someone watching horror films doesn't go out and commit mayhem. Nor do typical watchers of true crime genre carry out murders.

Something else is at play.

Porn is inherently abusive. Women’s (and men’s) bodies are not workplaces. All of those who are so liberal about it would likely be horrified if their partner, parents or child wanted to do this for work. Children do not learn rape from nowhere, or at least incredibly rarely is there a child who is not acting out some trauma. It’s traumatic for young people to see pornified representations of sex that damage their development.

I’m not saying they should be I’m saying the current position for porn is that it is available to children and something should be done about that.

Yes possibly porn but also
Effectively a gang
Who copied each others behaviour.
12yo off wandering with 14yo.
Its not just the internet jkids need supervision on.

Surely most 12yo boys are just starting puberty?
Personally i think sex ed is starting too young.
I think necessary for y6 girls etc.

What porn does though, especially to young minds, is that it normalises unrealistic body image , unrealistic reactions and behaviours and potential and actual harmful acts. Anal, chocking, abuse ,incest etc. aren't niche interests anymore ,but mainstream,bog standards videos.

Young people learn that that's what sex is, that's what men do, that's what women like etc.

What's the harm in making it harder to access?

I don't understand why it needs to be freely accessible on the Internet. When it was only accessed by buying a dvd or magazine it wasn't as bad as today.

I think it's bad for adults too to I'd be happy with it becoming illegal. Won't happen though

Definitely bad for adults too, . I agree with you on banning, but regulating it/making it less easily accessible and not free would help a lot and is a lot more feasible.

Porn is already illegal for under 18s. I think parents should be doing more to block content on their home networks, and being more proactive with checking what their children are looking at online, and the nature of the conversations they're having.

The lid is already blown off pandoras box. There's no going back to how it was as we live in a world now in which everything has to be accessible within seconds. But better parenting instead of blindly assuming your child would never look at x or do y would benefit everyone. Likewise having the conversations about fantasy vs reality.

I can control what DD watches to a certain extent. I can't control what her friends watch, or what she watches at their house. I can't control what the boys she interacts with watch and how it might influence them. I couldn't control what the boy who threatened to rape her because she wouldn't date him watched.

Also, porn being illegal for under 18's is about as useful as a chocolate teapot when there are no checks in place, no need to register or add a card or anything.

This is it. This is the "check". Click to confirm and you're in.

And you don't think that other parents actually parenting properly would help that situation?

You can block adult sites on your home WiFi. Most network operators require verification to access adult sites now, meaning ID or a credit card. But there will always be porn somewhere- Twitter, reddit, Snapchat etc.

It's upto you as a parent to monitor it properly.

@MartinsSpareCalculator then why bother checking for ID for buying fags,alcohol, possible weapons, entry into clubs etc?

Why not just expect parents to control and parent their kids?

Porn doesn't add any benefit to society that remotely justifies its significant harms.

Yeah, who cares what kids are being exposed to regularly just as long as you get your daily wank fix.

Fucking hell! 🙄