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"Bimbo" - apparently I sound like one at work?

92 replies

Stressedgiraffe · 11/02/2024 10:27

I've been thinking about this all week.
Dh overheard me talking to my manager (whole other thread) and when I finished announced that I sound like a 'Bimbo' .
Apparently I'm too friendly and laugh too much? So now I'm really doubting all my interactions at work.
I have a senior position and spend most of my days on teams. Is everyone else thinking that? What can I do about it?
How do I be less 'bimboish' or is dh just being a nob?

OP posts:
ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 11/02/2024 11:56

@Whiskeyvelvet what a load of crap. I'm a smiley, friendly female manager and I work with a lot of smiley, friendly male managers manners. We work in an office, not a prison.

Friendly and smiley doesn't mean no boundaries or professional. It is a natural disposition for many people.

Either way, I wouldn't be taking advice from an unemployed person who has been fired several times because of their demeanour.

OP, why are you waiting? You know he's never going to improve? The kids no doubt see it too.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 11:59

I’ve worked with people who can put themselves across in… not a great way.

You hear them chatting to family and friends and they are just totally normal, then they go back to their work persona of being a giggly vapid school girl.

I know everyone is saying your husband is a knob but really… is there truth it in? Do you have a work persona of being bubbly and giggle and “girly” instead of just professional and being yourself?

Cupcakes2024 · 11/02/2024 12:00

As long as you get along with the team and are productive then that's the priority @Stressedgiraffe

Cuppachuchu · 11/02/2024 12:10

He is a definite knob and you deserve better. Free yourself and be happy.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/02/2024 12:11

Yep, knob. I’d reply “and you, dear, sound like a wanker”.

Astrak · 11/02/2024 12:12

OP, your husband sounds like a heavy weight to carry. Apart from dog-walking, does he bring anything else of value to the lives of you and your family? If the answer is no, I would be planning an effective escape route, to fit in with your children's life plan.

ElaineMBenes · 11/02/2024 12:33

My view is somewhere in between. Women do themselves no favours at work by being "over smiley". I even have seen it suggested that a half smile is preferable. Look at male managers - they aren't grinning away. I'm probably going to get flamed for this. I agree this is not right or fair but I think it reflects reality.

What utter nonsense.
I'm naturally a very smiley, happy person. I know for a fact this has been an asset to my career not a hindrance.
My DH is the same and I can name other male managers who are naturally smiley, happy people.

Prelapsarianhag · 11/02/2024 12:34

Tell him he sounds like a cunt.

Pumpkinpie1 · 11/02/2024 12:35

Wow! Your H is living in another century .

BunniesRUs · 11/02/2024 12:36

Your DH sounds very insecure and projecting. I'm sorry this has knocked your confidence. What qualifications does he have to give you advice about role and industry?

TooMuchRedMaybe · 11/02/2024 12:37

So a man who can’t hold down a job due to attitude problems is giving unsolicited advice to a person who seems more than capable of staying employed and advancing to a senior role?

C00k · 11/02/2024 12:38

Astrak · 11/02/2024 12:12

OP, your husband sounds like a heavy weight to carry. Apart from dog-walking, does he bring anything else of value to the lives of you and your family? If the answer is no, I would be planning an effective escape route, to fit in with your children's life plan.

Unfortunately she has written that she is going to inflict this misogynist parasite on her kids until they move out. 🥴No happy home for them.

TooMuchRedMaybe · 11/02/2024 12:41

Whiskeyvelvet · 11/02/2024 11:50

My view is somewhere in between. Women do themselves no favours at work by being "over smiley". I even have seen it suggested that a half smile is preferable. Look at male managers - they aren't grinning away. I'm probably going to get flamed for this. I agree this is not right or fair but I think it reflects reality.
I don't think your husband's style is anything to aspire to either. What you want to project is a professional serious slightly friendly image. This has nothing to do with your competence either.

As for your marriage your husband sounds very unpleasant and unsupportive.

Surely this depends on your industry? If you want to do well in the service industry you have to be smiley, even as a male manager. I’m in the arts and believe me when I say that the people who are smiley, friendly, chatty are definitely those that get commissioned and hired for jobs. We all avoid square, aggressive, diffuse people. Life is too short for that nonsense.

Songiii · 11/02/2024 12:55

you sound like a “bimbo” yet your in a senior position so obviously you know your stuff. Don’t change yourself, it’s obviously gotten you far and will continue to do so!

theduchessofspork · 11/02/2024 12:56

He's an idiot and he's insecure about you for some reason.

He's deliberately trying to insult you. He can have no idea what's appropriate at your work, because cultures are different - but as you are doing well, he's clearly wrong.

So turn your attention to him - what's going on there?

theduchessofspork · 11/02/2024 12:59

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 11:59

I’ve worked with people who can put themselves across in… not a great way.

You hear them chatting to family and friends and they are just totally normal, then they go back to their work persona of being a giggly vapid school girl.

I know everyone is saying your husband is a knob but really… is there truth it in? Do you have a work persona of being bubbly and giggle and “girly” instead of just professional and being yourself?

Given the fact the OP describes herself as a senior manager and says she's just been handed two big projects, meanwhile her husband isn't working - let's assume she's doing fine at work shall we? You might want to check that internalized misogyny.

theduchessofspork · 11/02/2024 13:01

theduchessofspork · 11/02/2024 12:59

Given the fact the OP describes herself as a senior manager and says she's just been handed two big projects, meanwhile her husband isn't working - let's assume she's doing fine at work shall we? You might want to check that internalized misogyny.

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@Whiskeyvelvet ☝you too

PickledOnionsRodger · 11/02/2024 13:06

Sounds jealous and like he's trying to control how you interact. He is being a knob.

You're successful at work, his opinion doesn't count. Don't doubt yourself.

Lwrenn · 11/02/2024 13:18

@Stressedgiraffe sorry to read you are married to a massive bellend.

He'd benefit from watching legally blonde.

tara66 · 11/02/2024 13:29

Ensure he gets a job before you leave him or you may have to support him financially if you divorce.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/02/2024 13:33

Lwrenn · 11/02/2024 13:18

@Stressedgiraffe sorry to read you are married to a massive bellend.

He'd benefit from watching legally blonde.

I think he'd benefit from a Centipede in his pyjama pockets, personally.

veryberry89 · 11/02/2024 13:47

Stressedgiraffe · 11/02/2024 10:27

I've been thinking about this all week.
Dh overheard me talking to my manager (whole other thread) and when I finished announced that I sound like a 'Bimbo' .
Apparently I'm too friendly and laugh too much? So now I'm really doubting all my interactions at work.
I have a senior position and spend most of my days on teams. Is everyone else thinking that? What can I do about it?
How do I be less 'bimboish' or is dh just being a nob?

Not a nice thing to say to you.
Maybe jealous of you talking to other people or you doing well in your job/happy. May feel threatened or low about themselves.
Don't change yourself.
Need to have a chat with him making it clear you don't want to be called that again.

hellsBells246 · 11/02/2024 14:14

Stressedgiraffe · 11/02/2024 11:16

When he was working he was constantly being told off for the way he spoke. His attitude that he knew everything and swearing. He moved jobs a lot. He's now not working due to his health.
I'm the only one working so pay for everything so as long as I keep my job I don't see what it has to do with him.

Ah well, given this info, he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about or how to behave, so I'd ignore him.

Are you ok? 💐

ZsaZsaTheCat · 11/02/2024 14:22

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/02/2024 11:18

Only the truly thick and misogynistic like your husband assume such things. I can quite easily come across at first glance to such people as being a burbling imbecile due to ADHD and a stammer. However, get me talking specifics on my actual work and the technical, legal or logistical processes or have me provide something or respond in writing/by email and even those people realise that I'm really not. I've even been used as the test for whether somebody is bullshitting because of the way some of the terminally dim assume I can't possibly comprehend what they're talking about - and then how they react when I (politely but pointedly) skewer them.

It's relevant that he doesn't work. Not popular in the workplace, was he? Felt that his 'abilities' weren't seen by his superiors? That 'some woman' got promoted over and above him? Not happy that you're eminently more employable, likeable and competent than he ever was?

He's trying to neg you. Just in case you realise that he's dead weight dragging you down.

He is not working because of his health before your imagination completely runs away!

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 11/02/2024 14:23

Why subject your children to three more years of learning how to leech off your wife ?
They need better role models. Or at least the removal of the crap one.