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XL Bully attack | 8 year old boy seriously injured

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ThisOldThang · 11/02/2024 09:05

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/schoolboy-8-seriously-injured-after-28610020

"A schoolboy is in a serious condition in hospital after being mauled by what is believed to be an XL bully.

Merseyside Police were called to Wadham Road in Bootle just after 5.20pm on Saturday following reports a dog had bitten an eight-year-old boy to the head in the communal area of flats nearby.

The boy was rushed to hospital with serious head injuries and required emergency surgery. He remains in hospital in a serious but stable condition."

IMHO the ban doesn't go anywhere near far enough and all XL Bullys need to be put to sleep.

AIBU?

Schoolboy, 8, seriously injured after being mauled by 'XL bully'

A man and woman were arrested following the "horrific" dog attack

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/schoolboy-8-seriously-injured-after-28610020

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Waitingfordoggo · 16/02/2024 19:44

I appreciate that @Gloriosaford, thank you. I apologise for being overly emotive and miserable. I’ve just been out to teach a weights class and that’s made me feel tons better.

My mum used the phrase ‘cupboard love’ too!

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 16/02/2024 20:43

MatchingBedding · 16/02/2024 13:35

@SomeCatFromJapan like this one? Poor little thing ran to get away straight under a car.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13086977/Moment-pensioners-Jack-Russell-killed-attack-street-Mastiff-dog.html

Yes I have seen that elsewhere and it is absolutely appalling
It took several grown men quite a while to get the savage dog off the poor little dog that was being attacked and then the poor attacked dog ran in front of a car.Horrific.
Thats the thing though with the breed apologists for the bully breed.They claim there have not been that many human deaths….one is too many, but the amount of other animals that are mauled to death by these fighting breeds are just ignored and covered up by them.Its literally on a daily basis if not more that this is happening.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 16/02/2024 20:46

Stillnormal · 15/02/2024 20:23

This idea that living animals should be rounded up and killed because they are physically and theoretically capable of being dangerous but without evidence that they are individually prone to cause harm, whilst cars driven by dickheads cause many times more unnecessary deaths - and the risk of harm from cars is much greater, but justified on the basis that cars suit her. Massive twattery.

They (pit bull and their counterparts) should not have been bred in the first place.They are not suitable for general population.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 16/02/2024 20:58

Rainbowunicornsparkles · 15/02/2024 05:12

So actually there have been twenty children (under the age of 18) killed by dogs since 2010.

Nine were under one year of age

Two under the age of two

Two two / three year olds

Three victims aged ten

Three four year olds

One in her teens

So even if we assume fault of some kind in the victims aged two and above (they weren’t, one four year old was lying on the sofa when she was attacked) I think we’d mostly all agree babies can’t be ‘blamed’. And they make up the majority of the victims.

There are all kinds of reasons those poor children were killed. And my heart breaks for those babies but I'm just giving reasons.

Things like squealing, wriggling and crying could sound like a small prey animal to a dog.

Prolonged eye contact could be a trigger. Toddlers are eye level with many dogs and often stare. The girl on the sofa could have been eye level.

Food could be a trigger, I think the teenage girl had a pie and it all escalated.

Guarding or resource guarding.

Bookist · 16/02/2024 21:12

No. The reason all those poor children were killed is because they were in the presence of a monster dog that is Inclined. To. Kill.

The teenager girl could have been eating all the pies, but if the dog had been a toy Poodle it physically couldn't have killed her for the bloody pie.

Just bloody listen to yourself.

EmpressSoleil · 16/02/2024 21:13

I do think animals are capable of a form of love. Is it the same as humans? Maybe not. But what I do know is I have 2 cats. I feed them and take care of all of their needs. DS lives here. He loves them and pets them but does none of the day to day care so they aren't reliant on him. He went away on holiday and one of the cats was genuinely depressed. The other not so much, granted. But the one that missed him I would say genuinely did and was so happy when he came home.

DD is away at uni and every time she comes home they're all over her! Yet they shy away from strangers so it's not as if they've forgotten her and just think she's someone new.

So yes I do believe they love us and not just because of what they're given. There's definitely recognition there. Even if it is only by scent or some other animal sense. Maybe its just a sense of safety and not love as we call it. But it's a bond.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 16/02/2024 21:23

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 16/02/2024 20:58

There are all kinds of reasons those poor children were killed. And my heart breaks for those babies but I'm just giving reasons.

Things like squealing, wriggling and crying could sound like a small prey animal to a dog.

Prolonged eye contact could be a trigger. Toddlers are eye level with many dogs and often stare. The girl on the sofa could have been eye level.

Food could be a trigger, I think the teenage girl had a pie and it all escalated.

Guarding or resource guarding.

That’s a bit frightening that such normal everyday things could provoke a dog to maim and kill.

Gloriosaford · 16/02/2024 21:24

But it's a bond
I hope we could all agree with that @EmpressSoleil 😁
Anything else is arguably us being anthropomorphic, but then as humans we can only really see through human eyes!

Fageyoghurt · 16/02/2024 21:26

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 16/02/2024 21:23

That’s a bit frightening that such normal everyday things could provoke a dog to maim and kill.

Exactly, ultimately if the dogs can be driven to such violence by toddlers and other humans just existing and doing normal things like eating, staring or squealing it’s further evidence they are unsafe, dangerous and completely unfit to be pets .

My friends tween daughter was colouring in at the dining table when the family staffy dog went for. Her dad, and brother who were present backed up her story too.

Gloriosaford · 16/02/2024 21:27

Bookist · 16/02/2024 21:12

No. The reason all those poor children were killed is because they were in the presence of a monster dog that is Inclined. To. Kill.

The teenager girl could have been eating all the pies, but if the dog had been a toy Poodle it physically couldn't have killed her for the bloody pie.

Just bloody listen to yourself.

Absolutely! The reason for the deaths is that the pet had the ability to kill! No one should have a pet like that!

YouHaveLostTheGame · 17/02/2024 20:11

nationallampoons · 16/02/2024 02:52

Owners of dogs that attack should be held accountable, the ones that kill should be given long prison sentences

Just look on tiktok, up until the ban people were selling them through that app, it's frightening!

They still are even after the ban. Reporting does fuck all either.

SomeCatFromJapan · 17/02/2024 20:15

*There are all kinds of reasons those poor children were killed. And my heart breaks for those babies but I'm just giving reasons.

Things like squealing, wriggling and crying could sound like a small prey animal to a dog.

Prolonged eye contact could be a trigger. Toddlers are eye level with many dogs and often stare. The girl on the sofa could have been eye level.

Food could be a trigger, I think the teenage girl had a pie and it all escalated.

Guarding or resource guarding.*

It's certainly a stark illustration as to why they're entirely unsuitable animals to be pets.

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