XL Bully attack | 8 year old boy seriously injured

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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/schoolboy-8-seriously-injured-after-28610020

"A schoolboy is in a serious condition in hospital after being mauled by what is believed to be an XL bully.

Merseyside Police were called to Wadham Road in Bootle just after 5.20pm on Saturday following reports a dog had bitten an eight-year-old boy to the head in the communal area of flats nearby.

The boy was rushed to hospital with serious head injuries and required emergency surgery. He remains in hospital in a serious but stable condition."

IMHO the ban doesn't go anywhere near far enough and all XL Bullys need to be put to sleep.

AIBU?

I wouldn't dream of comparing you to a dog.

Most dogs are far more noble and generous of spirit that you seem to be.

It is NOT the dogs fault. Its how they are raised

No amount of training can eliminate genetics. These dogs are bread for their quick reactions and aggression.

But training can hide the genetics and then you have a dog like the XL Bullie that suddenly attacks.
There are to many people out there who clearly have no idea that a dog is a predator. That breeds were developed by homing in on this predatory behaviour.

(I love dogs and I own dogs)

RIP all the children & adults who have been killed by one of these dogs. 🥀

How about cats? My friend at school stroked a cat on the street and it scratched in the face. She still has the scar.

plus they shit everywhere and that can cause toxoplasmosis which can be fatal.

Should we get rid of all cats too?

How many fatal cat attacks have you heard of?

Silliest post I’ve ever seen on MN, and fuck me that’s quite some competition

I agree these dogs should be euthanised - and before that happens strict liability so if they injure or kill someone's then that's a long prison sentence for the owner.

My point was that getting rid of all dogs is equally ridiculous

focus on the ones that can kill and get better regulation to stop new killers coming in. Regulate breeders. The current free for all on dogs can’t go on but making claims that all dogs need banning is ridiculous.

To the person who has decided not to allow your child to go on a playdate in a house with an xl bully you are doing the right thing.

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/24109206.erith-mum-tried-cover-xl-bully-attack-10-year-old-girl/

The woman was given a prison sentence and banned from keeping dogs for 5 years. She should have also been banned from being responsible for a child forever.

That’s horrific - the people who own these dogs should be prosecuted

it’s sad for all the dogs but I agree they need pts now - it’s too frequent to justify the current restrictions.

we need to look at other countries and see how we can put in similar rules

How many people have been killed by cats in the UK? XL bullys have killed a pet dog every day, are cats doing the same? If attacked could three adult men do nothing to help? Have you watched any of the videos were the dog thinks it's a game and is enjoying tugging at the body? Why should deprived WC kids gave this threat thrown into their lives? Every third scumbag had one on some housing estates.

I was responding to the pp who wants all dogs to disappear. I agree xl bullies and other breeds that have been bred for aggression should be banned. I don’t think all dogs need to be banned.

awful. I’m glad she was jailed. Once again as I said upthread I’m sadly not surprised at this kind of thing since many people state their dog means more to them than other peoples children - even their own children sometimes.

I find it quite telling her daughter even called her mum first. Even at that age I thought she’d know to call 999. I certainly would’ve.

Not blaming the kid btw but it seems her mum groomed her to keep secrets and hide things away from the authorities etc.

Bloody hell I would have put her away for longer than that - everything about her actions tells you she didn't give a damn about anyone else except herself. As if she would become a better mother in prison. She has ruined several peoples lives with her simple minded loyalty to her boyfriend and his vicious dog which was more important.

You really missed the bloody point i was making., sometimes things happen.

You really mean to tell me that you kept your toddlers leashed at all times in a open area for families? Clearly you did otherwise you would realise that sometimes they do just run off bloody fast when you don't expect it.

Not once has one of your children at any age done something when you least expected it? You are 100% aware of every possible outcome?

I apologise as you seem to think I should have said 'neglectful parents let their child scream in dogs face'.

It was a huge park, the child was coming around the back of the van. Nowhere near a road and the truck was stationed for the day. Yes, for the dog the child appeared out of nowhere.

Yes the toddler was with 2 parents. They were enjoying a sunny day out having a stroll. The boy was right next to them, he just ran off I a different direction.

It was a bloody private park where toddlers should run around freely. It wasn't your typical park where people take dogs to throw balls, dogs had to be kept on leads and could nor access all areas. Not that it matters but this was also about 20 years ago before every other person owned a dog.

Regardless of you wanting specific details of the whole scene, the fact is regardless of how well you've taught your child or trained your dog, bad unpredictable events happen.

This event was one of them, where it was no ones fault. I'm not sure why you can't understand that or why I had to explain the whole situation in more detail.

Yes, a long sleep for all these dogs is warranted

Dogs in public should never present a risk whatever happens. That’s the long and short of it
Agree 100% @WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

I feel really sorry for the families who live on the estates and streets, where these dogs are prevalent. It must be terrifying! Even if the owners appear to be complying and muzzle them when they leave the house, knowing that they could escape at any minute would be so awful.
People shouldn't have to live in fear of their children being mauled, because some dickheads want a killer dog.

I don't need anything from you, no need for your ranty, incoherent post.

There were two parents who missed that their toddler had darted off. Kids do that but that's down to whomever is caring for the child. In this case, two of them.

My children weren't 'leashed', they wore reins. As it was mostly me on my own it was safer.

Please don't explain again.

Poor boy, I hope he makes a good recovery.

enough is enough. I saw a young lad walking one today without a muzzle. He wouldn’t have had a chance of stopping that dog pulling him off his feet. I was driving else would’ve reported it.

whats sickening is Vicky bloody pattinson constantly posting about the plight of these ‘lovely fur babies’. No mention of attacks or deaths. Completely thick and tone deaf

Ds1 was saying last night that he knows someone who breeds them and paid over 14k . God knows what will happen to them now he can't make money off them

My children weren't 'leashed'
@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe
Wtf! Who refers to children as being 'leashed'
Again we see this need to blur the boundaries between children and dogs, constantly wanting to assert that their pet is equal to a human 😳

It seems we have a government that can pass laws banning these animals but not fund effective enforcement of these laws meaning that those that don't voluntarily follow them will continue to put others at risk. Given that we are not going to enforce laws that allow the responsible owning of these animals they need to go.

This nonsense trying to blame toddlers and parents for a dog's aggressive reactions is pathetic. A toddler cannot kill an XL bully but an XL Bully can make a short work of a toddler as could many large dog breeds. Onus is therefore rightly on dog owners to control their animals when around others including toddlers. If you have a dog that cannot cope with a toddler running around without an aggressive reaction you have a dangerous animal that has no place out in public.

Unfortunately I have been regularly chased, jumped up at and growled at by dogs when simply minding my own business in a public area. I know the issue is not toddlers not being on reins.

@Eleganz completely agree with all of this.

Sunak and co just wanted to look as if they were actually doing something without actually doing something. We really need some kind of dog licensing scheme that will pay to put more dog wardens back on our streets and more stricter laws . It seems every other week this year someone has been seriously injured or killed by an XL.

Last week in Battersea park a woman‘s baby and toddler were attacked by an XL. The dog ran up and tried to get into the pram. The useless owner was on the other side of the park while the dog was biting this woman’s kids. Fully agree if your dog can’t be around children they shouldn’t be out unleashed especially not in public parks, or crowded places . And if it’s going for children surely it can turn on a small adult making sharp movements . So not really fit to be around people.

I don’t interact with dogs at all and don’t go near them unless I can help it, I even avoid parks and dog friendly coffee shops nowadays to minimise my contact with them, but yes I’ve been jumped up and snarled at too. Last time was on a coastal path on holiday. Having a lovely time walking along with my boyfriend and this woman with two dogs growled and lunged at us. She was really struggling to keep them away from us as the path was narrow, but I’m grateful at least they were leashed and to be fair she did apologise. But it did kind of ruin the walk a bit as I got such a fright. We waited until she was a long way away from us before we continued the walk so as to put distance between us.

I was on a train recently and this selfish woman kept letting her dog roam around the train carriage on a long leash while she was in her phone not paying attention. Everyone was trying to ignore it. It kept coming into the floor of my seating area which was annoying. I’m sure if I had moved my legs and kicked it accidentally before I noticed it and it had bitten me, I’d have been blamed.

Some owners need to take things more seriously.

It’s the owners that should be muzzled and on a leash and pts!

Bruisername · Yesterday 20:42

How about cats? My friend at school stroked a cat on the street and it scratched in the face. She still has the scar.

How are a cat and an XL Bully in any way comparable?