To think jumping the bus queue is just rude?

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It happens pretty much daily.
Either I will walk to the stop and a man will be waiting.
Other people come from the other side of road and stop the other side of the man.
The bus comes and he gets on and they walk on after him (I must be invisible )
Or there's a queue at the bus stop and people walk to front of the bus from top of bus shelter and just get on.
It drives me mad
And it's just plain rude
Aibu and is it just every man for themselves ?

@EasternStandard " I can’t say I care much if someone gets on before me"

I do if it means that there's then no room for me on the bus, buses round here are full to bursting between 7am and 8:30am!

Bus queues don't work unless there's only one bus running from that stop

I regularly catch the bus and never experience this. It might be because there's generally only a few people waiting but we all seem to remember the order that people arrived and it's common to hear a polite, "You were here first," from someone who has ended up standing opposite the bus door when the bus pulls up.

YANBU. I can’t understand all the posts saying I’d doesn’t matter etc. it does matter if you’re first or last on as it may (often) make the difference between getting a seat or not. Also, the further back I sit the sicker I feel so if I’ve gotten to the queue first I flipping well want to get on firet and stand a chance of getting the seat that won’t leave me wanting to puke. Similarly if I haven’t, I don’t jump the queue. It’s just rude!

I've actually noticed this is possibly a location based thing - for example when I lived in Nottingham people queued for the bus, but in Cardiff and London I've not encountered it (got me in trouble the first time I got a bus in Nottingham as wasn't aware the people sat down were 'queueing' - the bus stop was for more than one bus... Equally that in itself may be a factor, if the stop is only for the one bus a queue makes more sense but if it's for several buses that's much harder to do logically?

As a long term bus user, I don't let it bother me now if they push in, it used to really irk me, but tbh it's not worth the emotional energy- if someone is determined to push in its quite funny more than anything. A few years back on a regular bus route there was a lady who was a serial culprit and me and a few others clocked her tactics after a bit, she'd pretend to go to the front to 'ask the bus driver ' some pretend query then just hop on!! It was so brazen it made me laugh!

Ever since I waited behind some people who then didn't get on and had the bus drive off, I've looked out for myself a bit more. I won't push in front of people who are clearly in a queue boarding a bus, but I also won't assume everyone else is in the same queue. As others have said, you can't queue in the conventional sense for a bus because people are often waiting for different ones.

It used to annoy me but then I realised it's not a queue as such. Getting there first gives you the privilege of choosing the best position to stand. Weigh up where you expect the doors to be when the bus stops, factor in other potential passengers, then pick your spot. Over time you get a feeling for where the best position is, the one that gives you the best odds.

My top tip is if there are loads of people waiting at a busy stop with multiple bus services is to stand right at the end. Sometimes you get lucky and another bus arrives just before your one, so your one parks behind it, and you are in pole position for getting on.

If there are only a few people and plenty of space on the bus it's easy to remember which people were before you and which order to mount the bus in. But when there are thirty or more people waiting for multiple different buses, it's just a free-for-all.

See I'd argue if you're sitting down in the bus shelter you're not queuing. Just like if you're two metres away from the till poking at the shelves in a shop you're not queuing. Unless you've got a ticket system queuing is people standing in a line.

Where are you. I find people just don’t queue in large cities.

What are the seats for then?

Sitting on.

But you won't be at the bus stop if you aren't waiting (ie queuing) for a bus.

Round here, people just use the bus stop seats as a break whilst walking or to drink on or to sit on them whilst waiting for someone to get off the bus
Which is a whole extra layer of judgment to make

But you're not queuing you're just waiting if you're sat on a seat. You're not in a line of people that an onlooker can meaningfully interpret.

Well the layout of the bus stop I use regularly, if the queue didn't include the seats there wouldn't be room for pedestrians to walk past the bus stop because the queue would take up the available space.

Or if I'm at another stop with a slightly different layout I just ask the people on the seats if the want the <insert bus number> as its approaching and then let them on first.

It seems so bloody simple and obvious to me.

Appreciate other towns/rural places might have different layouts. But for the bus stops here I honestly can't see why people can't make a simple queue and just fucking speak to others to ask if they want that bus/ move out the way and tell the people behind that you don't want that one and to go ahead.

It just wouldn't occur to me to do that. If they want the bus they get up and if not they don't.

No need to queue, just get on the bus.

Whenever a bus comes, I'm always first on - always and there's a good reason for that... If there's two empty seats at the front nearside and I have my backpack, which is Mondays and Fridays (plus every other Saturday), then I'll take them. Firstly, because of my autism, I like to sit at the front nearside (nearside meaning the left) of the bus on the outside seat and secondly, I have reduced mobility what with getting older (I'm on the wrong side of 40) so going upstairs is not an option, nor is going to the back.

If someone younger than me is sitting where I want to park my a, then I'll ask them politely to move and generally they do comply, the same with anyone with a bag on the seat where I want to sit. You will get the odd w*r who doesn't and points out there are other seats but generally I don't get any problems. On days when I have my backpack with me and I think that someone might want to sit next to me, then I'll move it and it's the same if someone asks.

But to return to the point of this subject of queues, I may not like them and nearly always am the first on but, if there are people getting off the bus, then I'll stand slightly away from the front of the bus so's they can get off. Others may think I'm selfish for not joining a bus queue but that's their funeral - I'm not selfish because, if a bus pulls up and I see someone running for it, I'll hold it up for them...if I'm not getting it, that is.

Because if a bus stops right in front of someone they will get on. They aren't going to shuffle back out of the way through a bunch of people

There is waiting your turn and then there is being weirdly pedantic.

Pushing in by actively and knowingly cutting in front of someone is different. That's rude. But when people gathering a shelter or in a huddle approaching from both sides then that's just people getting on a bus

Your reason of there being 2 seats you want is not a good reason for being rude. You may be autistic but you can understand that your wants for the 2 front seats don't supersede others.

When you say always^ what do you mean? Do you shove people out of the way? How do you always^ get on first?

If you ask someone to move for no reason other than you want to sit there and treat refuse, they aren't being a wanker. You are being a CF.

Firstly, I don't shove people out of the way, as that would be rude. Secondly, most of the time those who I ask to move do comply because I always ask nicely. If I were to say, "Oi, shift yer a*" then that would get me nowhere. On Monday gone, I got on the 62, sat by this big feller and proceded to defeminise (which is taking my makeup off and all the rest of it) - I'm also what they call a t-girl (short for transgirl).

So, make any comment that I consider transphobic and I'll report you to mumsnet, okay?

What the fuck has being a t-girl got to do with the fact you are rude enough to walk to the front of the queue and push in?

Randomly making this about being trans is not supporting the movement

In fact it actively harms it.

You ARE rude. You can't demand someone move just because you prefer a certain seat.