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to ask what the "stereotypical 6 figure MN mum" does?

403 replies

TigerJoy · 06/02/2024 14:20

And how can the rest of us get a job like that?!

OP posts:
Alcyoneus · 06/02/2024 17:54

ReinNotReignItIn · 06/02/2024 17:52

High earning women should not feel the need to apologise or justify their salary.

Exactly.

unexpectediteminthebraggingarea · 06/02/2024 17:57

EvelynBeatrice · 06/02/2024 17:39

How can you get a job like that? It's simple. It starts at school. If you're strong academically and have clued up parents, teachers or career advisers, you research the most valued / lucrative degrees and aim for that. Economics is I believe the degree currently most likely to result in high earnings.
You also need the social / cultural capital/knowhow/ confidence to know about career options and think 'I could do that'. Sadly that eliminates a lot of people.
You also need to be able and willing to sacrifice today to benefit tomorrow. There are few students who are able to avoid hours of work every evening and still have a vibrant social life / social media habit / lots of friends and romances who manage to get the grades they need.
Finally, there are many who think degrees like economics, accountancy , law etc are too boring / hard work, so opt for something more fun sounding with no set career path. They will then ultimately be competing with the driven hard headed harder degree students for graduate places. There will also be many who have a vocation to teach or for science, resulting in careers that may result in career satisfaction and persoal fulfilment in many cases, but shamefully poor pay!!

Although you have made some good points you have missed of the adverse life events, illness, trauma, unsupportive partner etc that trip people up on their way too. I know very brilliant driven people who have just had life throw them completely horrible curveballs

Hocuspocusnonsense · 06/02/2024 17:58

Accountants! I know 3 women who earn well over £100k. One is a CFO for a corporate, £150k salary plus £££ annual bonus!

Aintnosupermum · 06/02/2024 17:59

As women we need to stop apologizing for earning our fair share, which all too sadly continues to be 80% of what men make for the same responsibilities and delivery of results.

I’ve experienced huge amounts of sexism. It’s getting worse the more senior I get. Too many men do not like it when a woman walks in, knowing how to execute the work and then goes ahead and quietly does it.

It’s also disgusting how childcare isn’t fully deducted from income earned along with policy changes which continue to inflate the cost. It’s no wonder so many women fall out of the workforce.

IncompleteSenten · 06/02/2024 17:59

If two of the figures can be after the decimal point - artist.

Aintnosupermum · 06/02/2024 18:03

@unexpectediteminthebraggingarea

I hear you on unsupportive partner. He is an ex for a reason. There needs to be much more work done to educate girls about emotional abuse, how to spot the red flags and how to extract yourself.

For me, on my first day at big4, my now ex husband sabotaged my start by cancelling the car service to take me to the airport. I missed my flight. I will never forget it and I don’t forgive him.

Ditch the bitch if they aren’t supportive. I carried my ex husband for far too long and now I pay the price.

Cerealkiller4U · 06/02/2024 18:04

TigerJoy · 06/02/2024 14:20

And how can the rest of us get a job like that?!

Cyber security.

Cerealkiller4U · 06/02/2024 18:06

I’d also like to say I do not have one qualification to my name!

not even a GCSE. I got lucky though and met someone at a conference. Asked for a job

3 years later they rang me 😂

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crumpet · 06/02/2024 18:09

Many will have taken extra qualifications in order to access the jobs which attract that money. For example it’s a minimum 6 years to qualify as a lawyer. Not all lawyers will earn that money but in order to access the city law firms etc you need to qualify

visavisapisa · 06/02/2024 18:09

Very typical story here - school university law school worked at a law firm became a partner (and then in fact moved in-house). No magic to it for me just decided on a career that was well paid and worked my way up

Cerealkiller4U · 06/02/2024 18:10

Friend of mine earns about 150 as a data analyst

Londonscallingme · 06/02/2024 18:12

mainly they work in london! It’s not hard to earn 100k in london, elsewhere in the uk it’s much tougher. I work in business development for an investment manager and I’m in my 30’s. I earn 150k.

hmmmwhattodo · 06/02/2024 18:13

A friend of mine works in sales and earns over £100k. Basic degree in business, but certainly not a career driven person and definitely doesn't put the after hours in, but does work hard.

You only have to do a job search and you'll see loads of 6 figure jobs, and they aren't all 'professions' (doctor/lawyer etc). Senior/director level in any core function (marketing, sales, HR) can command over 100k depending on the business.

Mattietoes · 06/02/2024 18:13

I earn c.50k from my 'day job' - NHS Clinical Psychologist.

On the side, I write novels. In a pattern of one book deal every 3-4 years, and all told (taking into account foreign rights, TV/film rights etc.) my deals pay 300k each, paid in instalments over a 3-4 year period.

So averages out to 100-something per year. Just wanted to show that not everyone is getting there via the same route - and it's not all finance or tech!

MrsCat123 · 06/02/2024 18:16

I work for a global investment bank in a compliance / audit / risk area.

Started my career after uni in a bank branch on £16k a year around 15 years ago (decided to work there for a year whilst I decided what to do), joined their graduate scheme the next year and worked my way up to a branch manager of a small branch.

From there I joined a head office function (taking a real terms pay cut as had to move to London), completed my accountancy qualification alongside full-time working and eventually moved to where I am now.

I'm about to go on my second mat leave where I plan to take a year + accrued holidays as I did for the first, and now work 4 days a week. I don't work long hours / weekends but I did do a lot of travel and late nights whilst I was qualifying at my previous work place.

I think I'm in a bit of a bubble as all of my friends / colleagues in London earn around the same as largely also in banking and had similar careers. My other friends outside of London don't earn anything like this, but none are in banking / finance / law etc. and many don't have 'career' type roles.

However, where I work there are a lot of ex-private school / Oxbridge alumni and only one person that I know of without a degree (in a global dept. of over 1,000 people). I look at the interns and grads we recruit now and think at their age I wouldn't have had a chance of getting a job here! They all have amazing grades, lots of extra curricular activities, often a year in industry (for the grads) and seemingly have their careers already mapped out.

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 06/02/2024 18:16

Hi @Cerealkiller4U from a fellow Cybersecurity bod! Just booking myself onto the InfoSecurity Europe conference when I saw your post.

@Londonscallingme I'm in a deprived part of the East Mids, Covid basically tore down the London boundary in tech related roles because there is zero need to have people in a specific location.

Georgyporky · 06/02/2024 18:18

My solicitor charges £180 p.h. - in the country, & not a specialist.

Do the maths.

Mere1 · 06/02/2024 18:18

My daughter works from 8 30 to beyond midnight daily, often at weekends and in annual leave. She’s a city lawyer, 15 years qualified.

donttouchmydrumsticks · 06/02/2024 18:18

I'm 30 & earn just over 6 figures in recruitment. Comp educated, got a job as a Graduate Trainee straight from university at 21. I could earn more if I chose to go into the office and manage/build teams but working remotely and flexibly as a single mum suits me.

Jeevesnotwooster · 06/02/2024 18:18

Those I know are lawyers, doctors, PR, run own businesses, including hospitality. Senior civil servants.

Londonscallingme · 06/02/2024 18:20

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 06/02/2024 18:16

Hi @Cerealkiller4U from a fellow Cybersecurity bod! Just booking myself onto the InfoSecurity Europe conference when I saw your post.

@Londonscallingme I'm in a deprived part of the East Mids, Covid basically tore down the London boundary in tech related roles because there is zero need to have people in a specific location.

You’re right, I should have said ‘they have london jobs’ these days you don’t need to live there

Hooplahooping · 06/02/2024 18:20

TigerJoy · 06/02/2024 15:44

No I am genuinely curious

It's just a bit annoying hearing twice that they worked incredibly hard. Of course they did, good for them, but lots of other people did too and don't earn those salaries. It doesn't answer the question.

I think the hard slog is important to acknowledge though - that for most people it’s not easy / lucky.

That hard slog certainly comes along side a combination of things like…

  • targeting career choices for maximum wealth / income
  • an early-in-life drive to focus on education (often supported by private education + involved parents
  • Preparedness to take risks and fail
  • confidence to put themselves forward for promotions + advancement
  • Polished self presentation + people skills
  • a facility to network
  • choosing life partners that help create a stable platform to operate from
  • focus. Both short term and long term. Intentionally setting goals - personal and professional, making plans + seeing them through.
  • a degree of luck

Plenty of teachers + social workers do work really hard - but that’s not why they chose their careers…

Flittingaboutagain · 06/02/2024 18:20

Mattietoes · 06/02/2024 18:13

I earn c.50k from my 'day job' - NHS Clinical Psychologist.

On the side, I write novels. In a pattern of one book deal every 3-4 years, and all told (taking into account foreign rights, TV/film rights etc.) my deals pay 300k each, paid in instalments over a 3-4 year period.

So averages out to 100-something per year. Just wanted to show that not everyone is getting there via the same route - and it's not all finance or tech!

I don't know how to confirm if you're who I think you are without outing you but if you wrote XXXXXX XXXXX XXXX published in 2020 I love your stuff.

InSpainTheRain · 06/02/2024 18:20

I'm an IT consultant in the finance sector with 20 years' experience. I did my first degree, a BSc Hons in Computer Science, followed by an MBA then another MSc in Technology Management. The BSc was full time, but the 2 Masters were part time while I also worked. I work pretty crazy hours each week, pretty much always on call. I've done a lot of international work in other cultures which employers also seem to like.