to not do Safeguarding training?

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I belong to a church, and occasionally serve coffee at the end of the service. I am being asked to take Safeguarding training, which I think is utterly pointless.
I have expressed this and been told that it's policy, and I have to do it.
AIBU to just stop doing coffee?

What is your objection, apart from it being required? Do you think it might be upsetting?

Why wouldn't you?

It's only pointless until you need it

Why wouldn't you?

because it's pointless.

Why do you think it’s pointless?

Depends what the training is I suppose, and how much you value your role within the church. If it's half an hour online and doesn't cost anything then I'd consider it. Anything more than that for the occasional serving coffees I'd pass.

You think safeguarding training is pointless?
jolly good
probably best you stop volunteering if you can't understand why it's needed and helpful and how important it can be
how pathetically selfish

I literally hand out cups of coffee to (generally) elderly people. That's it. If I didn't pass, what would I be capable of?

A lot of H&S safeguarding stuff is pointless. Or seemingly pointless. But every so once in a while, it saves someone's life.

Just do it.

(Unless there's a huge drip feed why you can't make the only Tuesday that coincides with the next blue moon on the day they are running it).

If you really think it’s pointless then they are probably better off without you anyway.

Safeguarding is everyone's responsibility
land knowing what to with any concerns in any organisation is important

I'd ask to see this policy.

The only training you need surely is to know who their designated safeguarding officer is, so that you can refer anything to them.

Religious organisations are very common places for abuse to happen. It’s very easy for people in positions of trust to groom the adults around them as well as the children.
The training is supposed to give you a bit of knowledge to help you look out for behaviours at church that might previously have been brushed off as ‘odd’

Your level of cluelessness really shows why you need this training.

I generally thing the more people who do safeguarding training the better.

The only training you need surely is to know who their designated safeguarding officer is, so that you are refer anything to them.
I have done ST, and this is what it boils down to, every time.

So what would you do if one of these elderly people disclosed let's say financial abuse to you or you observed signs of physical abuse?
turn a blind eye?

I can understand you thinking it's pointless (it isn't, but I see how you could feel it is) but can't see how you feel so strongly that you would refuse to do it? Surely you shrug and just go along with it?

And your question is moot, if it's their policy and you refuse it then they'll stop you serving coffees anyway, it won't be your choice to "just stop".

Very odd.

Not sure you belong in a church or a volunteering role tbh

Geez with all the child abuse within the church I would safe safeguard training is DEFINITELY needed! Arghhh.

why, because I question authority?

Why do you think it's 'poinless'? Do you mean the training generally is pointless or its pointless for you?

I've been reading about the Constance Marten trial. I'm wondering when it was some of the witnesses called the police about what they'd seen or heard.

Safeguarding is everyone's responsibility.

If you volunteer where children or young people are present then you should understand how to safeguard. Being able to recognise the signs and indicators of abuse and knowing how to follow their organisation's safeguarding and child protection procedures is really essential as it is to also protect yourself against any potential allegations by recognising how you can and can't interact physically with children. It will also help you to understand how to record or report any signs of abuse.

I don't think it's pointless. Safeguarding is everyone's responsibility. if you're in regular contact with potentially vulnerable older people you need to know what to do if they disclose for example that their family member is financially abusing them or their carer left bruises on them.