What do you think the sentence should be for murder?

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Obviously there are many different circumstances but after today’s sentencing for the awful crime committed I couldn’t help but feel anger when I seen the sentence - I feel this with most murder sentences. I’m going to get flamed on here but here it goes… I just don’t agree with rehabilitation for these sort of crimes, main reason being why the hell should they get that opportunity? Child murderers, multiple murderers, serial rapists - you’ve ruined countless lives so why should you get another chance at life? I know that’s a view most people don’t have but I feel strongly about it and don’t get me started about what sentence these monsters should be handed!

Oh you know me do you ?
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and yes I would, gladly 🙄

I completely agree with all of this.

The death penalty for murder and rapists. Mind you, there was a woman who I think killed her husband or partner because he had been interfering with her child, she deserves a medal.

Andrew Malkinson spent years in prison for a rape he didn't commit. He spent longer in prison than he should have because he maintained his innocence. But you'd have had him killed.

I agree with the PP who said the responses on this thread show many people are willing to kill based on their own screwed up idea of justice. That's no better than being a murderer. What about people who kill for vengeance? Do they get a free pass?

MN feels overrun with daily Mail readers at the moment 🤦🏻‍♀️

I believe that if you take someone’s life - especially a child’s life, then you should never be freed from prison. You gave up your right to freedom the moment you took their life.

Then they use the defence of provocation or diminished responsibility and they aren't found guilty of murder but of manslaughter which does not carry a mandatory life sentence.

Yes it does, as has been explained. It does necessarily mean in prison until death but it means you are serving a lifetime sentence and are never properly free.

Hanging or the firing squad

It is interesting reading everyone’s views. Of course murder can vary - a woman murders her husband after years of abuse is not the same as a parent murdering a child. I don’t think it’s one size fits all but I do still think the premeditated murders of the most innocent people deserve the worst punishment. Levi Bellfield, Lucy Letby, Ian Huntley and the numerous parents of innocent children who have been starved and tortured over the years absolutely do not deserve to see the light of day again but yet they get 3 meals, tv’s, visits from family and even fan mail - if you’re asking would I lose much sleep watching them take their last breathe… absolutely not

If they've murdered one of my loved ones then I'd like the option to kill them in the manner of my choosing. I genuinely feel that I could kill them myself - I'm not proud of that but it's my honest response.

That's why we have to have a better system than raw vengeance so I oppose the death penalty (even more so as miscarriages of justices do happen). Long prison sentences have to be the option and we all know that for some cases, there will be no chance of rehabilitation because the killer is beyond help. Part of me also wants them to suffer years of imprisonment rather than death.

Totally agree with you.

I can understand the primal urge to want to kill someone who’s hurt your children, for example, but that doesn’t mean as a society we should factor bloodlust or vengeance into our sentencing. Emotional bias is a very poor foundation for law and I find it kind of scary that so many people seem to think the death penalty is permissible based purely on the fact that they feel angry, or vengeful, or think the criminal “deserves” death. Seems like very short-sighted thinking.

Which murder is this?
Have you a link?

It's referring to the murder of Brianna Ghey

I'm glad you brought up Bentley. After he was executed, the police had an Amnesty for weapons. Criminals filled skips with guns and weapons. They even took to frisking one another before they set out on a job in case some hothead was tooled up because they knew that under joint enterprise law, they'd all hang if a victim was killed.
It is possible to have some sympathy for Bentley until you remember that he had been warned over and over not to associate with his partner in crime who liked to brag that he was going to kill a police officer. And Bentley knew that.
Gun crime became more and more common after they stopped hanging. Now the streets of London aren't safe.
I'm not a proponent of hanging. But really, sweeping statements that hanging is no deterrent is just sloppy thinking. There are good arguments in favour of hanging as well as against.