If VAT is added on Private School Fees, then it will be added onto University fees as well

[AgathaCrispee]

Does it worry you that this new policy of adding VAT on educational fees will also be applied to university fees as well?

AIBU to think this will put university out of the reach of the majority of families who will support their kids through Uni?

Also, for those who do go the level of debt they will come out with will be really big.

If they can apply VAT to private school educational fees then they've setup a case for Independent schools argue that it must be applied to Uni as well.

Is this going to create a situation where only the wealthy can send their kids to Uni?

I'm wondering why no one is asking this question!!

Errrr yeah we do.

Any increase in uni loans costs them money - see my link above. They are losing money on uni loans because we have so much sovereign debt post Covid.

Private unis like BPP is what you need to be looking at and thinking about. They want eg the legal sector and shareholders to do it.

It does not matter whether Labour or Tory get into power. Uni is costing them too much.

You wanted the op ‘investigated’ by mn. It was a silly overreaction

Btw you didn’t even tag mnhq, and that doesn’t even work

They don’t scan threads for ‘mn’

If you’re waiting for them to explicitly say “we won’t add VAT on university fees” you’re going to be waiting for a long time.

Thats okay, I investigated myself 😂

Yes, I'm afraid you are destined to now be used as an example of people silencing debate on every thread on this topic forever more. 'There are even people who report every single thread on this topic don't you know? How can we possibly be the ones acting in bad faith when there are corbynistas behaving like that?'

Labour are not planning on adding vat to uni fees. Shout 'I told you so' to me on the street if I'm wrong. Or better yet, call me economically illiterate. That's the most common insult thrown around on these threads.

Just an example of how precious people are

Hi all,
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If you’re waiting for them to explicitly say…

op you could apply this to much from Labour

I mean that is how politics generally works.

We need to hold our politicians up to scrutiny more on what they're proposing.

Shall we start with Rwanda rather than VAT on private schools?

And I’m not a fan of VAT on private school fees. I think it’s gimmicky bullshit, reminiscent of the Brexit bus slogan about the money that could go to a the NHS.

I also think that any policy change that will lead to businesses closing and children’s education disrupted needs to be taken a lot more seriously. This doesn’t feel serious.

We are a rich country. Huge GDP. But inequality grows year on year. VAT on private school fees is not going to reverse that. We need to start taxing wealth. Assets grow in value year on year, while wages remain stagnant. Until we gave the balls to address that, our country is becoming less and equitable. Schools and health are at the business end of this. They face the real consequences. Yes, they need more money in the short term, but more than that, we need to move towards a system which is not becoming more unequal by the minute.

Why bother scrutinising them on something that they’re actively trying to implement when you can make deranged threads on Mumsnet about something that no one has even suggested?

Thanks @HopeMumsnet

Hmm at some twitchy Labour supporters

What I'd be looking for is a detailed explanation of how they will change VAT regulations that cover both universities and private schools in the same exemption. That they recognise that both rely on the same exemption, so to change one could impact the other.

At the moment, both are covered under the same rules.

@HopeMumsnet thanks for clarifying and apologies @AgathaCrispee for suggesting you weren’t a genuine poster.

It’s not a ‘deranged thread’.

Any more than Starmer getting tied up in charitable status to start with

You might not like the question but it’s prompted discussion

Thank you, I really appreciate that 😊

Why precious? I pointed out that your misunderstanding of what the pp said was incorrect and made a jokey comment.

You’re not going to get that. So you’re just going to have to live with (entirely in your own head) worry that VAT on university fees is coming, while ignoring the altogether more likely outcome that the fee cap is lifted by significantly more than 20%.

@AgathaCrispee do you mind if I ask whether your dc go to private school?

It’s completely mad. There’s no discussion here, just people playing out made up stories in their heads and trying to sound like it’s thoughtful commentary.

I don't agree. By asking questions we raise concerns and put pressure on them to provide clarity.

Don't nothing gets nothing.

You’re not adding much bar insults I have to say

Kudos to pp for apologising though re mistake, rare on mn

No both are state educated.