If VAT is added on Private School Fees, then it will be added onto University fees as well

[AgathaCrispee]

Does it worry you that this new policy of adding VAT on educational fees will also be applied to university fees as well?

AIBU to think this will put university out of the reach of the majority of families who will support their kids through Uni?

Also, for those who do go the level of debt they will come out with will be really big.

If they can apply VAT to private school educational fees then they've setup a case for Independent schools argue that it must be applied to Uni as well.

Is this going to create a situation where only the wealthy can send their kids to Uni?

I'm wondering why no one is asking this question!!

“so you don’t think class and a discussion regarding private/ state schools is relevant?”

I think that would be simplistic based on cliches. Some people are adopted for example. Not everyone is white born in this country etc and middle class from the same parentage. People are individuals. You can’t just apply cliches.

holy moly

@Araminta1003 you say in that post on the other thread

My choice to opt for private school is a simple one.
The school fees are not too dissimilar to that of most London-based private nurseries or childminders; my husband and I saw school fees as an extension of those fees demanded during our children’s early years.
Additionally, I’ve learnt too often, life is not fair; so why should I subject my children to the same mediocre education that I received in a south London state school?

wow!!! i have never ever come across this level of hypocrisy on mumsnet before!!

in your words “the devil is in the detail”…

the “cliche” being that class has no bearing on whether or not a child is sent to private school by a family?

interesting

@shewasrooting - you need to go back to school and practise your reading comprehension.

I was literally quoting Diane Young. The devil is in the detail

deleted as wrong thread

love it!

So….

on the other thread you list the reasons why you opted for private for your children.

yes but you were indicating that if i posted the thread it would somehow prove you hadn’t said or meant that you were working class?

so….?

The op doesn't send her children to private school though?

oh, i’ll suppose i’ll never know! 😂

Is this the OP who changed her username so noone could go over her posting history and find anything that could be used to "pick her apart" . Some people might think there will be evidence in previous post that would contradict their assertion that her children are at private school. Obviously I'm not saying that though...

Again, I was quoting Diane Young talking about herself as working class. There are quotation marks- the devil is in the detail. My personal input was literally “well said Diane Young”

You are misquoting to discredit my questions. Cheap shot. Hot air.

i posted the link
i posted the page 27

you say that you have chosen to send your children to private school

you say you had a working class background

it really is as plain as day

@Araminta1003

You are misquoting to discredit my questions. Cheap shot. Hot air.

example? i am literally copying and pasting!

two questions @Araminta1003

So you privately educate your children as you explicitly state on the thread?

Do you come from a “working class background” despite saying your background is in high ranking military and indeed your parents were posted abroad and you boarded in a private school?

So what we have evidenced here on this thread is this is the politics of division.

Remembering that elections in the UK are not proportional representation, elections are not won by playing to your core vote. Labour have a real opportunity to unite lots of moderate liberal middle class voters.

However, they will definitely lose votes from this, possibly in marginal Tory seats they hope to win. This could be a massive own goal.

@Thesmokinggnu

epic hypocrisy on the part of @Araminta1003 is what i have “evidenced” from this thread

She was rooting - Good for you - always useful to drop into personal attacks.

let’s start with Starmer going to fee paying school and pulling the ladder up behind him.

@shewasrooting the post you’ve copied from another thread is a quote from Diane Young

You have got the wrong end of the stick with this. Very beginning of post is opening quotation mark. Scroll all the way down to above link - closing quotation mark. I probably wouldn't choose to post a huge quote like that but Araminta isn't talking about herself there.

Private schools pay VAT , and for those who have big capital projects they pay shedloads of it. If Labours policy goes through as it stands they will now be able to reclaim that VAT. At the moment they cannot.

Academies and LEA schools reclaim their VAT either under s126 or s33 .

there is a specific issue with sixth form colleges which is current going through the courts.

The army allowance pays for both commissioned and non commissioned . Plenty of NCOs children at my girls boarding school in the 1980s

Charitable status of private schools isn't being changed - Labour dropped that part of their proposal.

In answer to OP I would expect a challenge to add VAT to university fees as well, yes, but it won't come from the government. I think it's one way interested parties will try to undermine and wreck the proposed VAT changes.

Well if they are going to be so much better off if the labour policy goes through why are they worried?