AIBU for wanting handsoap in the kitchen ?

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We live with our in laws at the moment and there has never been hand soap in the kitchen. I got some at the weekend as the closest place to wash hands with soap is the bathroom.

Anyway, MIL keeps putting it away from next to the sink. I'm not going to put it out again next to the kitchen sink as it's her house. But I feel like having handsoap when preparing food is important

Ha! My Fairy is hidden away under the sink too, just my hand soap in a posh dispenser out by the taps. I do try to be a bit eco friendly and get the large handsoap refills for it CharlotteBog😊

Totally. Mil does that and refuses to let us wash our hands in the kitchen. I think it strange as does dh and dd. We move the hand soap and wash our hands anyway.

We have a dishwasher so the ‘Fairy’ or ‘Magnum’ in our case, isn’t used as often as hand soap from the dispenser.

The person who is filling up a basin in her loo and popping in their to wash her hands whilst cooking I'm a bit worried about. Sticking your hands in the same water over and over does nothing. Water needs to be fresh and running.

I mostly use the “gentle” wash liquid tbh.

I usually forget to restock the hand soap and it works just as well AFAIK.

edit: my mum has this rule that hands that are “dirty” due to being outside or particular activities (such as gardening) cannot be washed in the kitchen for hygiene reasons 🤷‍♀️🤔

but she still washes her hands (in the kitchen) before cooking, food prep etc.

There might be something similar going on with OP’s MIL.

Not if it's really hot.
If I'm preparing something which needs lots of hand washing (e.g. chopping onions, then chilli, then chicken, or making pastry) I'll partly fill the sink with hot, soapy water and dip in and out.

Team hand soap here.

Only bathroom is upstairs ... so I don't want to traipse upstairs to wash hands everytime I'm cooking/ preparing raw meat.

Could use washing up liquid up d but my hands are very dry as it is.

Buy a pretty soap dispenser and fill it with nice liquid soap. Give it to her.

This lives on my kitchen counter. It’s (L-R) dish liquid, hand soap, spray n wipe.

You quite clearly implied that they are one and the same. They are not. Just by reading other's saying washing up liquid ruins their hands and a quick Google implies otherwise, a quick search and I've found a few responses clearly stating that washing up liquid is more concentrated and doesn't dissolve so easily. Hand soap washes off and dissolves easier and often contains skin care ingredients. I'm not sure why you need compare it to chlorinated water but I'm sorry to hear it makes your face go red.

Same 😂 mumsnet is an eye opener sometimes

We've got hand soap in the kitchen next to the fairy liquid. I use the hand soap whilst cooking etc but get pissed off with other people washing their hands in the kitchen because they spray water everywhere and don't wipe down the bloody work surface after.

Yes hand soap by the sink in the kitchen for me. I'm fussy about what's seen on the work surfaces but I have a Joseph Joseph dispenser which looks nice. The actual hand soap is in the cupboard under the sink and is the same one used in the refillable glass dispenser in the bathroom. Most people I know do this - ie the hand soap is decanted into a dispenser (someone I know decants cheap stuff into molton brown dispensers!)

Not if it's really hot.
If I'm preparing something which needs lots of hand washing (e.g. chopping onions, then chilli, then chicken, or making pastry) I'll partly fill the sink with hot, soapy water and dip in and out.

It's not going to be hot enough to kill any bacteria from the chicken

Should definitely have hand soap as well as washing up liquid. That said I always use the washing up liquid to wash my hands because my skin reacts to most hand soaps.

The hand soap debate in our house is that DH (and MIL and his whole family) always top the liquid soap up with water when it gets down to the last cm or so in the bottle to make sure they get every last drop out…. Which makes it pointlessly watery, completely ineffective and the dc end up spraying the watery soap all over the kitchen.

Mine is on the windowsill behind the sink with the other sink stuff. I won't use fairy for hand washing as I have to use gloves for that as I'm a bit sensitive to it. My kitchen gloves are also on the windowsill on a poppit stand. Kitchen towel is on hook near sink

I have one of these screwed to the wall.

So how do you wash your hands after handling raw chicken?

Hot water taps are about 50C. Washing in that temp using soap will get rid of bacteria from your hands.

I don't have it in the kitchen, I go to the bathroom to wash my hands.

If I had two sinks in my kitchen I might, but I just don't like the idea of washing my hands where I prep food.

But I am in a bungalow so it isn't far away.

Sorry but that is absolutely grim. 🤢

I’ve worked in food hygiene for years and how you haven’t given yourself serious problems I don’t know 😳

If I was to eat out somewhere I knew they did that I’d report them.

Just use hot, fresh running water. All the time.

Oh.
On a thread where people are touching cupboard door with hands that have just touched raw meat, I'm surprised (and rather embarrassed) to learn that this is what you find so grim.

How is a bowl of hot, soapy water so different to running water though?
I'm not talking about it standing there for hours, but say - filling up the sink, chopping an onion, washing my hands in that water (rinse off with hot tap), chopping the chilli and ginger then washing my hands again, then chopping the chicken, wash my hands, rinse with hot tap. Probably 4 mins in total.

I'm trying to avoid touching the tap really. Have I got it all wrong?

Can you explain why?

Here's the CDC on why running water is better than standing water, and why water temperature isn't the primary concern.

(Don't worry I find the people who are wandering through the house and opening the bathroom door with hands that have been prepping food more grim but washing hands under running water really is key.

I think a lot of people misunderstand what soap does - it primarily lifts contaminants off the skin (allowing them to then be washed away) rather than immediately neutralising the contaminants.

catsnhats11

YANBU and anyone suggesting washing up liquid clearly never actually does that, the consistence is way too thick and "soapy" and also harsher on your skin.

Ridiculous to say people who say this don’t do it. I always do it and more than once when preparing food. I use less because it is more ‘soapy’ and goes further.

Putting soap in the cupboard is stupid because you then have to touch additional surfaces with greasy/ dirty/ unhygenic hands.
Soap is a practical item and needs to be put at the point of use in order not to create extra work and mess.

It's like putting toilet roll away in an airing cupboard neatly out of view.

Washing-up liquid is great at stripping grease off pans... hands have far fewer oils than a greasy pan and need treating with more care.