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Could you have eaten this?

203 replies

autienotnaughty · 29/01/2024 09:42

So ils did a massive turkey Xmas day and a ham joint Boxing Day. We visited for a few days from Boxing Day onwards, on Boxing Day we had the turkey reheated along with the ham. For the remainder of our visit the turkey and the ham came out at every breakfast and lunch and sat on the table for an hour or so with everyone (approx 10 adults and children) touching it. We also had a turkey and ham carbonara one evening.
On the 29th of December fil bagged the remaining meat up and froze it.
We got invited to Sunday dinner yesterday and guess what we had? Turkey and ham pie!

I really didn't want to eat the pie as imo they had waited too long to freeze the meat, it had spent too much time sat at room temperature, everyone had fingered it and it had been reheated at least once possibly twice already.

Dh said I am being ridiculous what do you think?

OP posts:
NaughtybutNice77 · 29/01/2024 13:12

I'm more baffled just how large this turkey and ham were.Theyfed you all for a week, not just one meal per day but often 2/3.....and there was still spare for a pie this weekend. Is that it or will it resurface at Easter?

Icantbedoingwithit · 29/01/2024 13:13

God no, there is frugal and there is foul. This is foul.

Scalottia · 29/01/2024 13:15

MN is so weird about leftovers. No wonder we have so much food wastage nowadays.

I would have eaten it.

YABU.

Farwell · 29/01/2024 13:18

4 days after is absolutely fine. We were still eating turkey until at least 30th.

The reheating part, if it genuinely was all reheated several times prior to freezing is far more of a problem to me. If I was reheating, I would only reheat as much as was needed for that meal and give the dog any uneaten reheated scraps!

Assuming only once cooked meat was frozen, I would eat the pie.

autienotnaughty · 29/01/2024 13:18

Laiste · 29/01/2024 12:02

I can't honestly remember the title, but it was something to do with non hand washing after peeing and a downstairs loo with a glass door!

and a FIL obvs

Thankfully not that fil!

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Growlybear83 · 29/01/2024 13:18

autienotnaughty · 29/01/2024 11:56

I think mil said the turkey was 20lb. It fed 6 Xmas day and10 Boxing Day (along side the ham) the breakfasts and lunch and carbonara there was 10 one day and 6 the next. There were 4 of us for pie. I don't think many touched it at breakfast and lunch as it never seemed to go down.

But also who invites people for dinner and offers old frozen meat up?

I'm really struggling with this! How can there possibly still have been any meat left to freeze if it was a 20lb turkey with the number of portions you've described? I've often cooked a turkey that size or larger, for a maximum of six people on Xmas day and then three of us after that. We've always used it up by about the 29th, we've never had any wastage, and I've never had any left over to freeze. The portion sizes must have been minuscule! Perhaps the turkey was bulked out by being served with a traditional Mumsnet massive salad 😆😆

But I don't see anything wrong in using frozen cooked meat in a pie, provided it was still ok when it was frozen.

autienotnaughty · 29/01/2024 13:20

FeltCarrot · 29/01/2024 12:56

Was it a fresh turkey or a frozen bird?

Can you eat turkey that was frozen, defrosted, cooked, sat around for 4 days, frozen then cooked in a pie?

I think it was fresh

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Returnofthemat · 29/01/2024 13:22

Surely the word “fingered” is reserved for teenagers in the 90s? Don’t think I’ve heard it since.

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/01/2024 13:23

Mumoftwo1312 · 29/01/2024 09:52

Yanbu. Your ILs should really buy smaller turkeys, more appropriate to the number of guests.

The whole point of turkey is abundant leftovers and a holiday from meal planning.

I usually freeze after 3-4 days in the fridge. I'd have happily eaten the pie, but I wouldn't serve it to guests, especially ones who might know its history and be a bit more picky than me.

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/01/2024 13:26

autienotnaughty · 29/01/2024 13:20

I think it was fresh

I would have no qualms about re-freezing if it's been cooked from raw in between.

CattingAbout · 29/01/2024 13:35

If I suspected they were going to keep bringing the meat out until it was used up, I'd have probably tucked into a very generous helping of leftovers on day 1 to try and avoid there still being any by day 4!

Failing that, I'd have slightly reluctantly eaten the pie. Turkey and ham carbonara sounds foul though!

AllTheChaos · 29/01/2024 13:38

shreknjumps · 29/01/2024 13:00

"We use plastic gloves, I buy them by the box."

Ugh, like a holiday inn breakfast in covid times? 🤢 that's as grim as fingering a turkey

Oh this made me laugh so much!

alliancedublais · 29/01/2024 13:40

PossumintheHouse · 29/01/2024 10:24

😏

The general point still stands, though. Doesn’t OP’s in-laws own some sort of utensil that could be used to dish out the meat? Nobody fingers turkey in my delightful abode.

🤣🤢

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 29/01/2024 13:41

Scalottia · 29/01/2024 13:15

MN is so weird about leftovers. No wonder we have so much food wastage nowadays.

I would have eaten it.

YABU.

I wouldn´t have eaten this. But some comments - particularly about reheating - are a bit OTT.

The fact that this wasn´t stored properly (cooled down quickly, stored in the fridge etc.) is a much bigger issue than somebody reheating their Christmas turkey.

Especially because you have to be more careful if you eat your leftovers without reheating them. And yet posters don´t seem to be particularly fussy about cold meats / leftovers.

Mumoftwo1312 · 29/01/2024 13:48

Everyone asking how big the bird must be to feed so many, so many times...

Third-time-leftovers are like Terry Pratchett's dwarf bread. No one actually eats it. It keeps you full in this way: everyone looks at it and says "actually no thank you I'm full"!

oakleaffy · 29/01/2024 13:48

PossumintheHouse · 29/01/2024 10:24

😏

The general point still stands, though. Doesn’t OP’s in-laws own some sort of utensil that could be used to dish out the meat? Nobody fingers turkey in my delightful abode.

“Stopppp fingering my Turkey 🦃!!”

😑🤢
Maybe people were pulling bits off with their unwashed hands?

JellyfishandShells · 29/01/2024 13:53

We had a fresh 4.5K turkey, served 5 on Xmas day with the sausage meat (and chestnut stuffing squares which are the main point of the Xmas meal for our family !) 3 on Boxing Day as cold cuts, some minor bits left in fridge for sandwiches by third day. The turkey meat was never left out in between being cut and served.

A whole cooked breast had been frozen on Xmas Day evening, along with other pieces of the meat plus most of a leg. I reduced the carcass to stock that evening.

We ate the breast defrosted and heated 2 weeks ago with mash and gravy made from the stock. I was surprised at how moist and tasty the meat was, not dry at all.

The other pieces of frozen roasted meat are going in a leek and turkey pie this week and the leg will be used at some point to make a soup with the stock.

It was an expensive Bronze one ( chosen mainly because of ease of getting from very local butcher) and I was doubtful about it being worth the difference in price but it was so good and per portion worked out to be very good value. We’ll get one again.

My MIL used to cook a huge ham for when we visited the ILs in NZ and the sight of it being hauled out yet again to go with salad was received less enthusiastically as the stay went on.

Fluffywhitecloudsinthesky · 29/01/2024 13:56

I'm with you OP, I'm not neurotic about veggies going off, all kinds of things I'd eat past the sell-by date but I don't mess with meat- 4/5 days later just about ok, but to then freeze it and reheat it in a different dinner, no thanks. I threw away some donated ham around New Year for this reason, I'd seen it so many times and it was a bit grey, no point taking a chance.

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 29/01/2024 14:06

I eat very little meat and don’t like turkey so I wouldn’t have eaten anything after Boxing Day! Keeping leftovers, freezing it days later and cooking it again sounds risky.

YADNBU

autienotnaughty · 29/01/2024 14:21

Mumoftwo1312 · 29/01/2024 13:48

Everyone asking how big the bird must be to feed so many, so many times...

Third-time-leftovers are like Terry Pratchett's dwarf bread. No one actually eats it. It keeps you full in this way: everyone looks at it and says "actually no thank you I'm full"!

I think that was the issue apart from Boxing Day and the carbonara I don't think people were eating full portions of it

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Threewheeler1 · 29/01/2024 14:26

Laiste · 29/01/2024 11:59

That is the one.

Oh lordy 😶 I'm going to have to search for that now (am avoiding other jobs and this seems vitally important to my understanding of the thread...)
Will I need an advanced search or will 'piddly penis hands FIL' bring me the entertainment I seek? 🤔
Let the fun commence!

Threewheeler1 · 29/01/2024 14:33

Re: Mr Piddly Penis Hand FIL...
After a very brief advanced search, am a bit traumatised by such gems as "wiping cock on hand towel" and the like, so after a rethink and some smelling salts, I'm just going to stay here...😟😬

ThereIbledit · 29/01/2024 14:37

Turkey for breakfast sounds absolutely awful! I think you need to "treat" them to a turkey crown of much more suitable proportions next year.

From a food hygiene point of view it's absolutely not okay to be bringing it to room temperature and refrigerating it again repeatedly over the course of several days, and neither freezing nor cooking will kill some of the germs that will have been happily growing on it - and the centre of pie won't even necessarily get up to the required temperatures for food safety. YANBU, I hold a food safety certificate for my day job and am more relaxed at home, but I wouldn't eat this.

Aren't you doing Veganuary? It's such a shame you'll have to miss out on the fingered bird and pig pie.

ThereIbledit · 29/01/2024 14:39
Season 5 Thanksgiving GIF by Friends

This.

Nanaof1 · 29/01/2024 14:52

Hecatoncheires · 29/01/2024 11:46

@Fannyfiggs Me too!!! And the piddly penis. 😄

@Hecatoncheires and @Fannyfiggs

Wait for me, please!
I started singing "Four and Twenty Blackbirds baked in a pie..."
I also remember the piddly penis fingers/hand. Still gagging

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