To open my window on the bus

[notknowledgeable]

It seems to be a mission for some people to fight to have all the windows on the bus closed, for all of every journey? Why? Before covid this wasn't an issue - now it seems people have a point to make.

I get there can be a chilly draught, but just put your coat on, or put your hood up?

I am immunocompromised, and wear a mask and open the window on my way to and from work. Every single time I get ill, ( currently a couple of times a month) my classes are left with non specialist agency staff. I take all the precautions I reasonably can to keep from catching anything, but this constant battle on the bus every working day is really wearing my down.

But you could be sitting in a spot that suits you, no draught, and then OP comes along and opens the window and you have nowhere to move to!

If she gets ill from fresh air, how does she make it to and from the bus stop?

Could you cycle op?

Huge cultural differences at play. Chinese, Russian and Italian friends all genuinely believe that being cold or a draft makes you seriously ill. Even drinking cold water is frowned upon by Chinese friends.

Why would you want to sit in a soup of other people's germs recirculating?

Comments like this just sound a bit silly to me. If you genuinely think buses are "germ soup", what do you think about other enclosed spaces - offices, shops, restaurants, gyms?

I use buses alot, and am rarely ill, windows shut or open

I work with people like this aaaalllllllll ddddaaaayyy! They drive me nuts. Coughing and spluttering everywhere then touching everything in sight. Don't cover nose, mouth, wash hands, wear a mask when knowingly unwell - nothing. Audacity to close all windows! Sigh! Tomorrow is Monday and it starts all over again!

I am trying to understand them really I am😱.

Unless it's boiling outside (very rarely in my neck of the woods) I would much rather have the windows closed and keep warm on the bus. When a window is open it creates a freezing cold draft which is uncomfortable for the people sitting behind.

Open windows are not going to cause your kids to be ill

I have to catch the bus sometimes, I sit upstairs where there are fewer people, but there's always people coughing and sneezing up there, I sit at the back with one window open for airflow. I'm amazed at people who want to breathe in all those germs. I can't afford to get sick.

She wont be off sick because of the window being open

Neither is it the window of someone who wants it closed.

How do you know? Some conditions are made worse by cold / draughts.

It isn’t a stretch. With Covid, the one thing every expert agreed on was that ventilation was the most effective prevention against transmission, over and above everything else.

Im not talking about colds, I am talking about being ill. I have been hopitalised twice in the last two months.

I am not talking about pitching my point of view against "a whole bus full of people" - I am talking about the constant fight between those who want their closest window open, and those who want every window on the bus closed.

Which it has been for at least the last 2 months at least.

No one is getting hay fever in January

It is such a ridiculous fallacy. Viruses and bacteria can make you ill. Being very cold, or sitting in a cold draft might lower your immunity, but it cannot in itself make you ill.

Im not talking about colds, I am talking about being ill. I have been hopitalised twice in the last two months.

I'm sorry to hear you've been unwell. But it seems strange to fixate on the bus windows being closed when you spend your days surrounded by pupils. Despite the distancing and open windows it's much more likely your illnesses are from the school environment.

Is it ging to leave your students without a teacher? is it going to put you in hospital? Is it ging to threaten your life? ( I dont think I am going to lose my life from a pathogen on the bus, but certainly other people on the bus might, I am not the only one at risk, and wanting windows open)

OP. what was the point opening this tread, since you are not listening to the others who have answered all you questions on the OP and you are still forcing your opinion on the 60% of posters?

I guess you are not that worn down by these daily battles after all.

I'd hate it if someone opened the window on a bus in the winter, unless they'd checked or explained first. I'd probably forget about Covid, so wouldn't be wanting it shut to make a point, just because of how cold I was. I do see your point of view though.

It depends.

In London on the tube a good draft is a godsend.

In my Baltic freezing part of Scotland keep the bloody windows closed.

If people get too cold, they can wear layers. If people get too hot, you can't exactly cavort around naked.

So the ones who want the windows open win.

I hate fresh air and draughts, but I'm with you OP. I always prefer open windows on buses, especially since covid.