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To open my window on the bus

440 replies

notknowledgeable · 28/01/2024 12:17

It seems to be a mission for some people to fight to have all the windows on the bus closed, for all of every journey? Why? Before covid this wasn't an issue - now it seems people have a point to make.

I get there can be a chilly draught, but just put your coat on, or put your hood up?

I am immunocompromised, and wear a mask and open the window on my way to and from work. Every single time I get ill, ( currently a couple of times a month) my classes are left with non specialist agency staff. I take all the precautions I reasonably can to keep from catching anything, but this constant battle on the bus every working day is really wearing my down.

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2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 15:59

Maybe you haven't given the best account of yourself on this thread @notknowledgeable but you come across as entitled, self absorbed and unable to consider any other view point - you clearly think you're right and everyone else is wrong. I've always thought of teachers as having a caring and compassionate personality given their vocation, but that's certainly not how you come across on this thread. I sincerely hope my children are never taught by someone who has zero regard for anyone else's feelings.

BestMammyEver · 28/01/2024 16:02

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Trinity65 · 28/01/2024 16:08

I was going to comment but you seem pretty arrogant and aggressive against those whom say You are wrong here.

Trinity65 · 28/01/2024 16:08

2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 15:59

Maybe you haven't given the best account of yourself on this thread @notknowledgeable but you come across as entitled, self absorbed and unable to consider any other view point - you clearly think you're right and everyone else is wrong. I've always thought of teachers as having a caring and compassionate personality given their vocation, but that's certainly not how you come across on this thread. I sincerely hope my children are never taught by someone who has zero regard for anyone else's feelings.

Absolutely ^

BashfulClam · 28/01/2024 16:13

I have severe hayfever and when people open windows and the pollen comes flying in they get a nice dose of my sneezes! Even medicated I sneeze a lot in pollen season.

BassoContinuo · 28/01/2024 16:14

Mybusyday · 28/01/2024 15:50

Exactly this - opening a window makes my condition worse!

Same. But as I’m not a teacher, I guess I don’t matter

Longma · 28/01/2024 16:15

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Grimchmas · 28/01/2024 16:16

2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 13:07

I'd be annoyed with you. I hate sitting in a cold draft. You'd be making me really uncomfortable.

Your comfort doesn't trump OP's immunocompromised status though.

ManchesterLu · 28/01/2024 16:18

I'm probably missing the point, but if you're immunocompromised, you're probably much more at risk working in a school all day than you are on your way to the school in the morning. Wearing a mask and practicing good hand hygiene is all you can do. There's no use getting into fights with commuters over a window.

2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 16:19

So a whole bus full of people should all be uncomfortable, cold, and apparently put our hoods up, because OP has decided her frequent colds are all caught on the bus?

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2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 16:20

@Grimchmas and I am also allowed to feel annoyed about sitting in a cold draught with my hood up on the bus without it becoming a game of top trumps

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2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 16:26

Bbq1 · 28/01/2024 13:49

Because Op is immune compromised, that's why. The other people on the bus are fortunate not to be. I am the same currently due to serious illness. I am lucky i don't have to travel by bus. I detest masks and struggle to wear them but very occasionally do. I wore one to take our cat to the vets a couple of days ago and a woman sat openly staring at me the whole time . Wish I'd told her my health condition now. I think people think any mask wearer nowadays is wearing them due to covid. Most aren't but if they wanted to it's up to them.

So everyone else should be cold and uncomfortable because you don't like wearing a mask?

Bigtom · 28/01/2024 16:31

notknowledgeable · 28/01/2024 14:32

All the windows are open and I stay more than 2m away.

Poor kids …

hummmmm · 28/01/2024 16:35

All these people saying school is where you pick up the bugs so it's pointless in the bus are showing a huge lack of empathy and aren't even trying to understand that for some of us every situation needs a personal risk assessment.

Yes school is risky so op is distancing, ventilating and masking.
The bus is also risky so they are taking what precautions they can there too. They can't make others stay at home or mask if they're ill but they can open the windows so they do that.

Every encounter with potential infection situations needs you to take what you consider to be reasonable precautions to do what you can to avoid THAT encounter leading to illness.

Newgreendress · 28/01/2024 16:38

OP, if you asked the driver's permission to open the window, he would probably tell you to ask whether other passengers don't mind, and if they do, you can't open it.

willWillSmithsmith · 28/01/2024 16:40

I used to have to get the bus to work and on a cold day open windows were horrible. Not in London or a city so the bus wasn’t smelly or overcrowded but the draft through a bus window can really cut through you depending on where you’re sitting. The problem is the person who opens the window is usually sitting next to it but it’s the people behind it that get a freezing gust.

Portakalkedi · 28/01/2024 16:44

yes I always wonder about this (or did when I was using public transport), those who insist on having all windows closed, how do they manage when they have to be outside? It should be standard to have ventilation in such enclosed and crowded spaces.

Roundtoedshoes · 28/01/2024 16:45

60% YABU but OP won’t concede or even consider people are different (and most people who have said they don’t like the windows open have been shot down for expressing any (equally) valid reasons for their preference).

PickAChew · 28/01/2024 16:47

Toddlerteaplease · 28/01/2024 12:26

They need to be closed or the air in or heating doesn't work.

Most buses don't have air con.

With some companies, you're lucky if the windows work.

SleepingStandingUp · 28/01/2024 16:52

2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 13:07

I'd be annoyed with you. I hate sitting in a cold draft. You'd be making me really uncomfortable.

There's v few places on the bus where you can catch an actual draft from an open window. It isn't hard to not sit in one.

ActDottie · 28/01/2024 16:52

I think the issue is probably more that 50% of people probably want them open and 50% want them closed.

Sometimes when it’s really cold I wouldn’t want them open. Yes I have my coat etc. on but normally when I’m outside I’m walking so keeping warm. It may not keep me warm enough sat on a bus doing nothing.

Then other times I might be really hot and would appreciate the cold air coming in.

Bbq1 · 28/01/2024 16:54

2024HappyNewYear · 28/01/2024 16:26

So everyone else should be cold and uncomfortable because you don't like wearing a mask?

Haha, no i WOULD wear a mask if i was on a bus. I thought i made that clear? I am fortunate that dh drives me where I need to be and i haven't been on a bus since before covid. So it's nothing to do with wearing a mask, i still would wear but woulds still open a window. Why would you want to sit in a soup of other people's germs recirculating?

Toddlerteaplease · 28/01/2024 16:55

@PickAChew we have posh buses!

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