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Zara Alena Killer Caught Having Sex With Prison Worker

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NotQuiteNorma · 27/01/2024 08:10

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jordan-mcsweeney-zara-aleena-hmp-belmarsh-b1130206.html

Not new news I know. It's highly unlikely that if you were being sent into high security prisons to work alone with men who had committed the sort of crimes against women that this man had, you wouldn't know what he was inside for, but even if you didn't know he bludgeoned a lone woman to death in a sexually motivated murder, wtf are you doing having sex with prisoners anyway?

What on earth goes on inside the heads of women who have sex with people like this in high security prisons?

Innocent victim, or fully aware of what she was doing? I mean honestly, what the actual fuck?

Zara Aleena's killer 'caught having sex with female prison worker in Belmarsh'

A prison worker was allegedly arrested on suspicion of misconduct

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jordan-mcsweeney-zara-aleena-hmp-belmarsh-b1130206.html

OP posts:
SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 10:48

@Blueeyedmale you bet there are but i focused on women because of the op's angle that how can a woman fancy a man like this who hurt another woman, should be united in sisterhood against such men kind of thinking.

SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 10:49

@InAnotherLifetimeMaybe i think sex segregated establishments should be so even in their staff.

InAnotherLifetimeMaybe · 27/01/2024 10:51

SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 10:49

@InAnotherLifetimeMaybe i think sex segregated establishments should be so even in their staff.

So no male teachers in girls schools?

No female nursing staff at all on men's wards

No males at all on maternity wards

No cleaners,consultants or theatre staff unless same sex??

SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 10:55

I don't like the idea of a male teacher in a girls school, in theatre thats not a single sex establishment is it. @InAnotherLifetimeMaybe
Men are capable of seriously hurting women and girls so in hostile or sensitive environments sex segregation is best i think.

Queijo · 27/01/2024 11:00

InAnotherLifetimeMaybe · 27/01/2024 10:51

So no male teachers in girls schools?

No female nursing staff at all on men's wards

No males at all on maternity wards

No cleaners,consultants or theatre staff unless same sex??

In regards to theatres there was a huge scandal last year? Where men were sexually assaulting female surgeons whilst trying to do their bloody job! So yes, sex segregation everywhere is much better for women, and in this prison case, men as well.

https://www.gla.ac.uk/news/headline_1002509_en.html#:~:text=Research%20found%20nearly%20a%20third,some%20form%20of%20sexual%20misconduct.

University of Glasgow - University news - A third of female surgeons have been sexually assaulted, finds new research

https://www.gla.ac.uk/news/headline_1002509_en.html#:~:text=Research%20found%20nearly%20a%20third,some%20form%20of%20sexual%20misconduct.

InAnotherLifetimeMaybe · 27/01/2024 11:01

Ok good luck with campaigning for that then

SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 11:03

And that Brazilian I think guy who was sexually abusing women numbed up to give birth.
The electrician in a morgue raping and assaulting dead women and girls?

SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 11:05

Anywah sorry i will bow out as I have derailed too much. Sorry op!

InAnotherLifetimeMaybe · 27/01/2024 11:07

You haven't derailed at all

madderthanahatter · 27/01/2024 11:08

There was a prison worker who did an AMA not so long ago and she said it's quite common for prison workers to get involved with inmates.

wizzywig · 27/01/2024 11:08

I work in this type of environment. There are a few staff who truly believe what comes out of prison residents mouths. They think as they have completed the training that they are savvy and know it all. When I manage these women they really think they know their offender partner better than us, that they know about safeguarding so can keep themselves safe.

girlfriend44 · 27/01/2024 11:13

How dreadful for the family.
What sort of message is she giving out?
She thinks what he did to other women is OK?

PToosher · 27/01/2024 11:15

I know a woman who is married to a man that served time for raping his 10 year old sister when he was a young adult. I can't get my head round it. She seems relatively normal and is not unattractive, she wouldn't have been desperate for attention.

PonyPatter44 · 27/01/2024 11:43

This woman wasn't a prison officer, though. I think she was a nurse, although I am not 100% of that.

It's been proven time and again that having female staff in male establishments improves prisoners' behaviour. There are thousands of female officers, teachers, drug workers, health care staff, psychologists working in prisons, who are responsible, normal people and wouldn't dream of giving a prisoner a blow job in the cleaning cupboard. Unfortunately some individuals make themselves vulnerable through various means, and these vile stories are the result.

I knew a young female officer who fell for a prisoner, and actually believed his nonsense, to the point where she left the prison service so she could "be with him". He promptly removed her number from his phone list and put in for a prison transfer. He wasn't the slightest bit interested in her as a person, he just saw her as someone a bit naive that he could corrupt. She threw away her career and her reputation amongst her peers, for that total loser.

graceinspace999 · 27/01/2024 11:59

‘He’s not like that with me though .’
‘I understand him.’
’He’s innocent.’

mommatoone · 27/01/2024 12:10

graceinspace999 · 27/01/2024 11:59

‘He’s not like that with me though .’
‘I understand him.’
’He’s innocent.’

I get this is probably the attitude with some of these who get involved with offenders, and as Pp said , some are very convincing etc. But, the thing with this deviant is that there was footage of him that night preying on young women, following them - just waiting for a victim. It's as clear as day.

NotQuiteNorma · 27/01/2024 12:48

The article is clear she wasn't a prison officer and I've been careful to avoid that assumption too. Regardless of role, what really concerns me is that any woman in any working capacity in a high security prison would be left alone long to have sex with someone who has committed such a horrific act against a lone woman. It isn't too far a stretch to say that she could very easily have been found dead. He does afterall have a rather unhealthy sexual deviation toward sexual violence against women.

OP posts:
Blueeyedmale · 27/01/2024 12:59

SofaViagra · 27/01/2024 10:48

@Blueeyedmale you bet there are but i focused on women because of the op's angle that how can a woman fancy a man like this who hurt another woman, should be united in sisterhood against such men kind of thinking.

I absolutely agree with you and yea I'm also wondering like op why and woman would entertain wanting to be with a man would has committed such sickening crimes against women.

Is it vulnerability is it isolation or loneliness or just simply thrill seeking behaviour its a difficult one to answer

Weefreetiffany · 27/01/2024 13:32

Shame on him for what he did and shame on her for fucking a murderer who commited such a disgusting murder on an innocent woman.

SquirrelSoShiny · 27/01/2024 13:39

Queijo · 27/01/2024 08:23

Honestly I think some women are so desperate for male attention they’ll ignore anything - even men who commit these disgusting acts - just so they feel ‘wanted’.

It has to be a self-esteem issue, or perhaps growing up with abuse? I can’t see any mentally healthy person thinking anything along these lines.

This.

Oganesson118 · 27/01/2024 15:13

InAnotherLifetimeMaybe · 27/01/2024 10:42

She wasn't a 'prison guard'! Did you read the article?

Oh god whatever, I was using the term as a catch all and it doesn't affect the point I was making. Applies to anyone working in a prison.

Longma · 27/01/2024 15:20

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Bex5490 · 27/01/2024 17:12

Well if there are Maxine Peake’s in this world who are not themselves paedos but can support a monster to abuse kids then it’s not surprising that there are women out there who don’t mind sleeping with someone like this guy…

TempestTost · 27/01/2024 17:26

OP, I think you need to take a deep dive into the romance novel genre. Having sex with a violent man is one of the most common female fantasies.

Actual murderers and rapists in prison, if they are at all known to the public, get all kinds of mail from women outside, ones they've never met.

Years ago I saw a study done by an anthropologist (IIRC) who found that having killed someone actually increased a man's attractiveness to women.

InAnotherLifetimeMaybe · 27/01/2024 17:26

Maxine peake? The actress?