Zara Alena Killer Caught Having Sex With Prison Worker

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jordan-mcsweeney-zara-aleena-hmp-belmarsh-b1130206.html

Not new news I know. It's highly unlikely that if you were being sent into high security prisons to work alone with men who had committed the sort of crimes against women that this man had, you wouldn't know what he was inside for, but even if you didn't know he bludgeoned a lone woman to death in a sexually motivated murder, wtf are you doing having sex with prisoners anyway?

What on earth goes on inside the heads of women who have sex with people like this in high security prisons?

Innocent victim, or fully aware of what she was doing? I mean honestly, what the actual fuck?

I'm a feminist, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything every woman does. Some women are stupid. Some women are amoral. Some women turn a blind eye to what happens/happened to other women.

What went on in this woman's head? I have no idea.

Really? Stuff that!

I work in a men's prison and easily avoid having sex with the inmates! Fgs

Many of whom are mumsnetters!

I appear to have managed pretty well for 20 years without sleeping with a prisoner either!!

I don't know who this criminal is but it seems pretty obvious that many criminals will be extremely good at dealing with women and convincing them that they've done nothing wrong.

I went on a course once and someone who worked in prisons was on the same course. She taught literacy and numeracy to prisoners so not a warden. She said they often found that male inmates responded better and were more respectful to women and vice versa. I doubt she had sex with any inmates either.

True

I despair, I really do.

What he did to Zara was horrific. How on God's earth would any sane woman find him desirable enough to actually have sex with him. She's clearly able to hold down a job so she knew what she was doing and what he was in prison for. There are so many stories like this. I get the same sick feeling when women write to criminals in prison as pen pals.

I actually think she's a complete shit if she did engage with sexual activity with him. It's like trampling over Zara's memory and the justice system. He's obviously going to take it wherever he can.

If she wanted sex she could just go down the local pub. Sick in the head.

I've worked in men's prisons for over 10 years and have also managed to avoid having sex with any prisoners. There are advantages to having female officers on the wings, we say it dilutes the testosterone and some prisoners respond much better to women due to issues of their own.

People join the prison service for all sorts of reasons and sometimes those reasons are bollocks. Some people like the idea of having power over those in a weaker position, some people like the idea of being down among the bad boys. Most people join because they want to help others and make a difference, plus when they get there they find its a really interesting job.

She wasn't a prison officer though, so not the one banging up the wing

The article does stress that

Ian Watkins gets letters from women everyday trying to form relationships with him, serial killers on death row get bags of correspondence and some end up meeting and even marrying women, women form relationships with men they know have been violent to previous partners every day, stand by violent men who abuse their children.
There might be deep pyscological needs and conditioning that results in this, or it might be just a self centred personality. But it happens regularly and having sex with a violent convicted sex offender is nothing particularly new. Just slightly more unusual it is a prison officer.

@ClareBlue it was NOT a prison officer

I worked in a male prison for 12 years and agree with @PonyPatter44 , but also many people work in jails because they are the largest employers in the area and have many friends & family that also work in it , also as living in an area that has a prison is not seen as an ' out there unusual ' job .

Many prisoners are very adept at making the best of a situation ( lifetime experience of conning & conniving ) to get their own way .

You'd hope at the interview stage that those applying for a career within the service who are vulnerable would be rejected , but sadly , and obviously not in all cases .

It's also not just females that are manipulated into doing things , prison staff have been found to bring in ( what is known as contraband ) drugs , mobile phones etc as well .

I know of a few female prison officers who have been jailed for having sex with prisoners in high security Wakefield prison.
( My old School friends husband was the Prison Doctor until he retired).

Just one of many below.

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/crime/prison-officer-jailed-over-her-affair-with-notorious-drugs-baron-john-anslow-at-hmp-wakefield-and-sending-him-1000-text-messages-from-secret-burner-phone-2898589

P.S it's also happened the other way round at Wakefields New Hall women's prison loads.
Male prison officers sexual abusing female prisoners.

Where in that article does it say she had sex with him @Moier

Honestly I think some women are so desperate for male attention they’ll ignore anything - even men who commit these disgusting acts - just so they feel ‘wanted’.

Unpalatable but agree

Yes it does happen and yes there has Been a few prison officers who have ended up pregnant due to inappropriate relationships with inmates.

Quite a few years ago it happened in a young offenders institution the lad was only about 18 and the female member of staff was late 20,s

Saying that male members of staff also have relationships with female inmates but seems the press highlight female staff behaviour more

Not excusing either side before you all pile on, but from what I know, psychopaths can be exceedingly charming and persuasive. Though really as a prison guard, you should have enough about you to rise above that. Professionalism and all. Was she new to role? If he knew that, she'd have been an obvious target.

We have plenty of teachers in our schools having inappropriate relations with students. Ban male teachers teaching females? And vice versa??

No. Didn't think so

She wasn't a 'prison guard'! Did you read the article?

There are women who write love letters to mass murders, bring paedos into their homes and believe the psycho ex line when the court ordered no or centre contacr only with his kids.
So this doesn't surprise me. Abusers can be charming and there are damaged women out there attracted to this because that's the dynamic that feels normal or facinating to them. There are so many mentally ill people and dangerous people that we as a civil society can't sterilise or imprison so because of this, we are brushing shoulders with all sorts of people everyday.

People have and wil always break boundaries that is why we have professional conduct 'courts' and a procedure to disqualify .. from teacher student to doctor patient, this happens.
Women shouldn't work in men's prison full stop.

That's true but I bet there are men out there that write to the likes of Lucy letby with their weird thoughts too

Yes women should work in men's prisons

Why not?