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AIBU in not making up with DD just yet, or will leaving things make it worse?

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themoon66 · 20/03/2008 11:41

OK. I probably am, but would value opinions of MNers.

Background information: DD is in final year of fashion degree. She is aged 21. She sometimes comes home to do her cutting out of clothes as we have a large empty bedroom for her spread fabric out in. Her final collection has to be in on the last day in April. She also is desperate for models for her catwalk show in May and asked me to ask amongst my friends.

A friend and colleague of mine said her daughter could do modelling and was the right height, dress size etc. She is also a reasonably pretty girl.

Last night at 10.30pm me and DH went to pick DD up, along with all her fabric, patterns, sewing machine etc. Just before midnight as me and DH were making moves to get to bed, DD said??can I go on your computer?? We said ?yes, but don?t make yourself late for bed, you?ve a lot to do tomorrow etc.?

Anyway, as I was saying goodnight, I suddenly remembered the picture of the would-be model I?d found. I went in the study and said??oh I think I?ve found you a model, you will be pleased?. I put the photo in front of DD, who glanced briefly and said:

?God she?s ugly?!

My heart went fluttery and I felt terrible ? this is a friend?s precious daughter she is talking about. I said ?oh she is not that bad surely, and she?s the right size, height etc ? just what you wanted, and beggars cannot be chosers, she?s happy to do it for free, don?t be so nasty please?.

DD picked up the photo, threw it down and said ?oh come on mum, she?s got a face that looks like its been hit by a bus?! (how did I raise such a bitch I wonder).

To change the subject, as she was obviously in one of her ?moods? I said, ?what are you doing on the computer then, it looks interesting? I couldn?t actually see what she was doing and it just looked like a blue and white webpage. Well? with that, DD slams the laptop shut and says: ?for gods sake how dare you read my emails?!! I said ?I was not reading your emails, I just saw the banner at the top and read it out loud, I didn?t even KNOW it was emails.?

DD: ?Oh come on, you deliberately read my emails by standing so close and looking over my shoulder, of course you know they are emails?.

Now normally I would just say sorry and leave it at this, but last night I thought ?no, I wont be spoken to like this?? so I retaliated (also I was angry about her comments about the photo).

I laid into her and a massive slanging match ensued between the two of us. DH was hiding upstairs listening. I told her, loudly, that I would not be spoken to like that, this was MY computer, MY study, MY house and that she should show a bit of respect when people do her favours like letting her come home to cut out, sew, model for her, lend her computers to use etc. I said ?it?s always the same with you, you come here and act like the big I am and treat me like a bit of muck on your shoe?.

(reaching screaming pitch at each other by now)

She kept on about how her emails were private and I?d deliberately read them. I countered with ?I didn?t know they were emails, it looks like a web page and I couldn?t have read them from that distance anyway?.. and round we went, in circles.

I flounced out and went off to bed after more of the same, but louder. Then, as DH and I were in bed, we could hear her crying loudly and dramatically downstairs in the study. DH got out of bed to go to her and I said ?Oh leave her, she?s 21 and has to learn that she cannot be so rude to people?. He said ?I cannot leave my daughter crying downstairs?. I followed him? she started again about me reading her emails and off we went again.

6.30am this morning. DH comes in bedroom to wake me and tell me that he is taking DD back to uni right there and then. She refuses to stay. I could hear her down in the hall, still wittering about me reading her emails and DH trying to pacify her.

She is cutting off her own nose to spite her face by leaving. How the hell is she going to get her fabric cut out and her dress collection finished now? I suppose I will get the blame for her failing her degree because she says I don?t want her in the house.

Sorry? long story? but is it unreasonable of me to not ring her and beg her to come home today? Or should I ring and apologise for something I haven?t done (read emails). If I ring and even mention emails, we will be down the shouting route again I fear.

Did I behave unreasonably? Am I ^still behaving unreasonably by not contacting her today?

And I?m still very angry about her rudeness over the girl who offered to model.

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chenin · 20/03/2008 17:21

If Arguing were in the Olympics, my DD1 would have triple gold! She is so so clever with arguing and I often have to say 'I don't wish to discuss this at the moment'. What this actually means is, I have to go in another room, think up some more good arguing points, regroup and come back for Part Two.

DD1 can tie me up in bloody great big knots, given half the chance but I will NOT give in. She is due home from Uni at w/end and we are totally disagreeing on something she wants to do at the moment. I have had to mentally prepare my case as to why she shouldn't do what she wants. There will be a big black cloud over my house at Easter!

chenin · 20/03/2008 17:21

If Arguing were in the Olympics, my DD1 would have triple gold! She is so so clever with arguing and I often have to say 'I don't wish to discuss this at the moment'. What this actually means is, I have to go in another room, think up some more good arguing points, regroup and come back for Part Two.

DD1 can tie me up in bloody great big knots, given half the chance but I will NOT give in. She is due home from Uni at w/end and we are totally disagreeing on something she wants to do at the moment. I have had to mentally prepare my case as to why she shouldn't do what she wants. There will be a big black cloud over my house at Easter!

chenin · 20/03/2008 17:22

ooops!

lucyellensmum · 20/03/2008 17:24

sad thing is moon, she probably is only like it with you (because she can be, my DD is the same). People love my DD, think she is polite, helpfull and pleasant, i just think, are they talking about the same girl?? Don't beat yourself up over this, it looks like you are the emotional punchbag for her stress just now. You do need to make it clear that you cannot take that, because you love her and it hurts. But in the same instnace, you love her and will always be there for her.

I have had some humdinger arguments with my DD, she has moved out now (she is only 17), dropped out of college (so who am i to advise you??) etc, but we are getting on better - but i have learnt one thing, if she starts getting an attitude, i just either walk away or say, right, if you are in that sort of mood, piss off and come back when you have calmed down, and i mean it - usually shocks her into calming down. But it is so tough dealing with all the exam stress so maybe should give your DD benefit of doubt, this time.

themoon66 · 20/03/2008 17:30

Oooh hellibean.. what is the thing she wants to do this easter? Tell us.

lucyellensmum.. People are always telling me what a wonderfully polite nice girl DD is

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chenin · 20/03/2008 17:34

It is something she is soooo determined to do this summer. Take her ancient banger of a car and drive round France with 4 other 19yr olds! I really really don't want her to for 101 reasons (apart from car unlikely to make it to Dover which is 4 hrs drive from here, the endless drinking they do, right hand drive car and her an inexperienced driver). Watch this space!

Everyone loves my DD too. I see her in action when working at the pub, and she is a darling... but not always with me!

chenin · 20/03/2008 17:38

she works at the pub... not me!

edam · 20/03/2008 17:38

If she always wins arguments, stop being drawn in. If she goes off on one, walk away or state firmly "I am not going to discuss until you are ready to have a civil conversation" or something equally irritating!

Is your dh very good at verbal battles, by any chance?

themoon66 · 20/03/2008 17:38

Yes, mine has done pub work too.. charms the pants of the blokes who come in.. espeically the older blokes who sit hugging a pint all night and playing doms. Now she works part time in a bookies and has the customers bringing her bacon butties in for breakfast etc. They love her.

She'd never win prizes for charm when she's around me though [whipping boy emoticon]

Hellie... no way about the car.. i'm with you on that one. Insurance unlikely to cover her in any case.

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themoon66 · 20/03/2008 17:39

DH is rubbish at verbal battles edam. I don't know where she gets it from. DH just tries to pacify her all the time.

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chenin · 20/03/2008 17:43

gawd... the moon... that is identical to my DD. All the crusty old locals love her! As does landlord, landlady, other staff, wives etc... I feel like an alien sometimes.

But...but.. I read somewhere once, that it means they are comfortable and love us enough us to argue.

themoon.. I am worried she will get the insurance - she will have been driving 2 years by the time the holiday comes round. I am shitting myself about it actually and trying to work out how to stop her. I have been researching and preparing my case like made this last week (how pathetic is that....)

chenin · 20/03/2008 17:45

researching my case like mad .. i mean!

My DH just gives in to her or spends approx. 30 seconds arguing with her then walks away muttering to me "Oh I can't cope with her when she is like this" and leaves it to me to sort!

themoon66 · 20/03/2008 17:54

Hellie.. I thought I read somewhere that you have to be 25 or over to drive abroad on British licence. I know that is true when I've hired cars in France and Spain. Surely the insurance will work out too expensive for her?

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chenin · 20/03/2008 18:10

According to my research (which could be wrong!) you have to be over 21 to hire a car abroad. But you need only be 19 to take your own car and drive. Please please please let you be right....!

chenin · 20/03/2008 18:10

sorry... have hijacked your thread somewhat....

themoon66 · 20/03/2008 18:17

hellie.. feel free to hijack.. my orignal OP is redundant now I've actually phoned DD.

We can use the space and time to sort out your problems.

Anyone else?

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