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Sahm housework help

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Duckingfun · 26/01/2024 19:23

Please be kind as I’m struggling right now.

My house isn’t good enough. Its better than every house I lived in as a child and with my ex. Obviously I accept I’m used to it as it’s my ‘normal’ but it’s not because professionals say it’s not good enough.

I’m also autistic, homeless at 16 and never been taught to cook/clean/wash/whatever. I have no partner, no family and no friends (we moved away from friends because of dv and all my family have died or live elsewhere) ss involved due to dv and stayed involved due to poor house conditions.

I find housework really boring and mundane and when I do it it’s not good enough. I hoovered the living room and was told it didn’t look like it had been hoovered - I have a toddler and a teen, both asd etc and life is hard but I’m told there’s people in my situation with health problems, no support and 5+ disabled children whose house is spotless. How?
One social worker says house is ok 9/10 times and the other says it’s not and both say that’s not good enough anyway it needs to be spotless 10/10 times. Im crying because I’m overwhelmed and don’t feel I can physically do that? What do you do when you’re sick? Is it really that bad to leave the pots for the following day or only hoover once a day etc

I need to know exactly what you do each day to maintain your home. Tell me what products you use where, your cleaning routine if you have one, how you keep on top of stuff. How much time should be spent cleaning each room? How often do you wash bedding etc is being a sahm just endless cleaning?

thank you.

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Duckingfun · 27/01/2024 00:34

WeeblyWobblyWibbly · 26/01/2024 23:42

From your posts it does sound like you struggle to keep a level of cleanliness that’s bordering on neglect of the children especially if intensive support are visiting several times a week and SW are visiting every 10 days or less. Everyone’s definition of cleanliness is different but I do know there’s a basic level SW expect.

Whether people like it or not there’s certain indicators SW have to follow with suspected neglect cases and that includes cleanliness of homes.

There’s been some great advice on this thread for helping you manage to keep your house clean and tidy. You’re “fine” may not SW’s “fine” and my advice would be to work with them and take the advice the agency providing intensive support is giving.

How the house was before it was 100% neglect and I hold my hands up to that. I was struggling massively, grieving my parents, had a horrific birth experience etc etc and I was unable to cope so I called social services and told them everything, I have been working and will continue to work with them.
Now it’s a case of proving consistency, iss are happy but sw isn’t so I think their opinions of what’s good enough definitely come into it. It seems most people’s ‘deep clean’ is my daily clean which is why I’m struggling and feeling overwhelmed. So yes there was huge concerns but now it’s about maintaining it and showing consistency etc

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Duckingfun · 27/01/2024 00:40

k1233 · 27/01/2024 00:06

I am not a domestic goddess. I despise cleaning and can slack off until things become a mess.

I've got a few approaches, depending on what needs to be done.

Let's start from the position of we're in a mess. Depending on how you're feeling mentally, set small tasks. Eg, I've just got to dust the lounge room then I can have a break. Or set a timer to do 15 mins of cleaning every two hours. Anything to get you up and doing it. Don't feel you have to do everything at once. Just 15 minutes. If that's too much make it 5 or 10. Any cleaning is better than no cleaning.

The trick to cleaning is go from the top down. By that I mean clean light shades (very rarely, only if dusty), wipe and dust surfaces before you do the floors. Anything you wipe can fall on the floor, so it'll mess up your clean floors if you do them first.

For me, I do best to focus one room. Get it good, then do the next. Depending on how many rooms you have, you can think of it as tidy one room per day. That's really not much once you've got it clean in the first place. My only exception is floors. They're done in one session.

Maintenance is key. Make sure everything has a home. Whenever you use something, it gets put back in it's home, not left somewhere to be put away later. This will keep you uncluttered and make cleaning easier, as you just need to do surfaces.

My recent discovery is microfiber cloths. I've bought about 30-40 and have wrapped them onto a paper towel holder. Lots of cloths make it easy! I use for dusting, wiping, washing (eg skirting boards, window sills) and just grab a new one when the one I'm using feels ick. I can also grab one whenever I see something looks like it needs a wipe. Quick spray with appropriate cleaner and it's all fixed. Much better and faster than letting it get worse before starting to clean. Chuck in the wash and ready to go again.

My next discovery is it's ok to use lots of water on floors. Don't know why I never knew that. I'd get grotty corners that the mop couldn't get clean. I literally saturated some microfiber cloths and put them in the corners and let sit. After a couple of minutes, the grub just wiped away.

Once you get a room clean, do that room once a week and start on getting a second room under control. You might find you're more enthusiastic once one room is good. If not, just keep chipping away in 15 minute blocks.

Cleaning products - I use microfiber cloth with:

  • sugar soap for washing walls, skirting boards, window sills ( once clean window sills can just be dusted)
  • all purpose surface cleaner for benches etc
  • glass cleaner for mirrors, windows
  • bathroom cleaner for the shower / bath to remove grime
  • floor cleaner - I put a good dash of disinfectant in my mopping water - pick one that smells nice
  • toilet bowl cleaner
  • furniture polish if you have wood furniture

When I'm in a mess, my room cleaning order is

  • kitchen
  • dining
  • lounge
  • bathroom
  • toilet
  • bedroom
  • floors

I clean the visible, high use places first as that makes me feel better, which helps with enthusiasm.

Some jobs you need to do daily:

  • clean kitchen, do dishes. If you're cooking you can put washing water in the sink and wash things as you finish with them. That saves a huge job at the end. Always wipe benches and splash backs.
  • put things where they belong. This will be pretty fast if you do it daily
  • wipe the bathroom sink - use microfiber cloth, damp with water, quick wipe over surfaces
  • wipe any spills, crumbs etc as they occur
  • quick look in lounge and dining and tidy if needed

Depending on foot traffic, you might need to vacuum and sweep a couple of times a week. Mop once a week, spot clean if mess at other times.

Weekly (pick a day for each task to break them up):

  • wash bed linen
  • wash bath towels, tea towels, dish cloths
  • wash cleaning cloths - if you've wet any, place them so they dry overnight and don't get stinky
  • bathroom - clean shower, bath and sink with appropriate cleaner
  • toilet - clean bowl, use surface cleaner on cloth to wipe over tank, lid, window sill, outside of bowl. Make sure you get behind the toilet with the broom/ vacuum to stop dust accumulating
  • give lounge and dining a good tidy and quickly dust (super fast if done weekly)
  • tidy away in bedrooms and dust

Less frequently (quarterly/ six monthly) - with sugar soap

  • wipe skirting boards
  • wipe high traffic area walls if marked
  • wipe down window sills and tracks if sliding windows/ doors (vacuum tracks and wipe sills with surface cleaner in between if they look dusty)
  • wipe doors (including the outside of front and back doors)

Annually

  • clean windows
  • clean behind appliances eg fridge, washing machine, stove

With laundry, put away as soon as it's dry. I line hang and fold everything as I take it off the line. I hang according to where things are put away ie all towels together, t-shirts together, socks in pairs etc that way, when I'm bringing it in, everything that is put away in the same place is stacked together. Takes minutes to put away as you don't need to sort.

That got really long, but I know how it feels when it gets out of control. You can fix it and can on top of it. Just tackle small chunks.

Thank you so much! It’s so kind of you to take your time to help me and I’ve screen grabbed it all. I’m feeling a lot more positive now 😊

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penjil · 27/01/2024 01:07

It sounds to me like the Social Worker is overstepping her duty here.

A house isn't "dirty" because there are pots on the side or a few crumbs on the floor.

I feel she is taking advantage of your autism and almost bullying you.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 27/01/2024 08:27

Ghentsummer · 26/01/2024 23:11

Wiping the kitchen sides every single time you use them (even if just making a cup of tea?!) plus wiping sinks, taps and toilet every evening is not the basics. There is no need to tip bleach down the loo every night Providing no pets, floors don't need to be hoovered more than once/twice a week. And nobody should be so paranoid about cleanliness that they are carrying antibacterial wipes around with them inside the home.

Edited

To clarify, I don’t walk around the house all the time with antibacterial wipes. I made that suggestion to the OP to help her ‘clean as she goes’ as it was clear she is very overwhelmed. I thought this might be an easy way for her to get on track and to keep on top of everything for the moment.

Greengagesnfennel · 27/01/2024 09:18

It sounds like you have 2 issues. Cleaning and Tidying. The most important is the cleaning. It is dull and endless. The best way to deal with it is to have a weekly schedule. And a monthly for the things that don't need done as often. At a bare minimum you need to weekly deal with the bathroom and kitchen.

Bathroom
Deep clean toilet (wipe under toilet seat and all around and add toilet cleaner in bowl)
Full clean of sink and bath including taps bathroom spray
Clean mirror
Mop floor

Kitchen. Get all crockery and cutlery and food/packaging rubbish from all around house into kitchen and do all washing up. Take out all bins (after putting all house rubbish in). Clear all kitchen surfaces so nothing but appliances on them and wipe everything down with kitchen spray
Brush and then mop floor
Clean hob
Quick wipe of microwave if you have one.

If those 2 rooms are done weekly and you Hoover other rooms once every week- couple of weeks I think most social workers will think they are ok. I'm sure there will be cleaner houses but you need ok not show home. A dirty bathroom and kitchen are what make a place feel unhygienic.

Pick a day of the week for each and stick to it.

FrangipaniBlue · 27/01/2024 11:09

set yourself a goal to clean a room a day

Fuck that shit, life's too short to "clean a room a day" 😂

FrangipaniBlue · 27/01/2024 11:14

We adopt the clean/tidy as you go approach.

Finished with that magazine? In the recycling or in the magazine rack.

Finished using that phone charger? Put it away.

Finished making a meal? Wipe the worktops, top of hob (if used) and wash the dishes.

Finished in the shower? Wipe the shower down.

Finished in the bath? Wipe round the bath.

Last person to do their teeth before bed wipes the sink down.

Bins get emptied as and when they're full.

That way the only "big" jobs are things like changing the beds (get the teen to do his own), hoovering/dusting (bedrooms done when beds get changed, living room as and when it looks like it needs it!) and cleaning the oven (DH job!)

Sixpence39 · 27/01/2024 11:27

Sorry you're feeling so bad. Sounds like SWs are being vague and unhelpful and it's understandably making you feel worse. Could you ask for their help in drawing up a realistic daily plan?

I never have a spotless house. It's clean enough to be healthy and comfortable but somebody could easily find fault in my house if they tried! Sounds like they are quite unreasonable - I would never dream of cleaning bathroom every day unless for example a kid had got poo everywhere! I clean bathroom once a week, hoover maybe twice a week and do dishes, wipe down kitchen tops and sweep the kitchen floor after the evening meal. Tips for making cleaning easier:

Get wireless headphones and listen to a good podcast or YouTube videos to make it less boring.
Clean up as you go as much as you can, so it doesn't get overwhelming - wipe up any spills straight away, encourage kids to put toy away before they get out a new one etc.

You can download and print off checklists that tell you how often to do certain things - eg dishes daily, change sheets fortnightly, wipe skirting boards monthly. Tick it off through the month so you can remove some of the overwhelm and make it concrete so you know you've done "enough".

toastedcrumpetsrock · 27/01/2024 12:29

Just want to say well done op for asking for help!
You have lots of tips and ideas here- I just wanted to say make sure the things you are cleaning with are clean, so clean cloth for wiping up spills etc otherwise you are just rubbing the mess around and make sure your Hoover is working properly- bag not full etc
Get storage, washing in a basket looks much better than washing on the floor, it signals that you are about to do something with it - either, wash, fold etc

CaribouCarafe · 27/01/2024 17:47

Hi @Duckingfun, one thing to check regularly is your hoover and whether the brush at the bottom is clogged or if the hose attachment is partially clogged. If either has hair/fur/dust wrapped around it then you'll waste a lot of time hoovering for little gain.

With microfibre cloths (which I love!), again make sure they're dust-free and clean when you use them, otherwise you'll spread dirt around. Use a feather duster first to get the main dust off, then clean with one MF cloth, and then give a quick wipe with a less fluffy second one (in fact a shammy or glass cleaning cloth is best). That way you'll end up with no dust residue or fluff on the surface and it'll look cleaner for longer (I find after a few washes my MF cloths do get a bit fluff-filled, especially as I have cats!).

Last advice, buy cleaning tools that make you happy - if you buy something that makes you smile, you'll be more inclined to use it. E.g. spending slightly more on a design/colour/pattern you like. Keep some cleaning products discretely tucked away in each room so you can spot clean. If you struggle with lugging out a big vacuum every day, then use a handheld vacuum instead or a good quality dustpan and brush for spot-cleaning.

For what it's worth, my house is not spotless 24/7 but can be quickly made to look so within an hour or two. It's unrealistic for a house to look perfect all the time.

RatatouillePie · 27/01/2024 17:51
  1. your housework sounds fine. Make a list of what needs doing weekly the put loud music on and do it with your teenager!

  2. cooking is easy and much cheaper than pre made food. Buy a basics book second hand and learn. Get teenager to help and do it together

  3. absolutely declutter. It makes you feel so less stressed. Remember people are far more important that stuff!

Duckingfun · 27/01/2024 18:11

CaribouCarafe · 27/01/2024 17:47

Hi @Duckingfun, one thing to check regularly is your hoover and whether the brush at the bottom is clogged or if the hose attachment is partially clogged. If either has hair/fur/dust wrapped around it then you'll waste a lot of time hoovering for little gain.

With microfibre cloths (which I love!), again make sure they're dust-free and clean when you use them, otherwise you'll spread dirt around. Use a feather duster first to get the main dust off, then clean with one MF cloth, and then give a quick wipe with a less fluffy second one (in fact a shammy or glass cleaning cloth is best). That way you'll end up with no dust residue or fluff on the surface and it'll look cleaner for longer (I find after a few washes my MF cloths do get a bit fluff-filled, especially as I have cats!).

Last advice, buy cleaning tools that make you happy - if you buy something that makes you smile, you'll be more inclined to use it. E.g. spending slightly more on a design/colour/pattern you like. Keep some cleaning products discretely tucked away in each room so you can spot clean. If you struggle with lugging out a big vacuum every day, then use a handheld vacuum instead or a good quality dustpan and brush for spot-cleaning.

For what it's worth, my house is not spotless 24/7 but can be quickly made to look so within an hour or two. It's unrealistic for a house to look perfect all the time.

Thank you!
have unclogged the hoover, someone mentioned a filter, who knew you had to clean that. I feel so stupid.
am doing as pp suggested and using the weekend for a big clean, getting frustrated at moving dust around but now I know I need to use more than one cloth!

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Poppysmom22 · 27/01/2024 18:18

There’s loads of you tubes about cleaning. There’s also a list of jobs somewhere on the internet that you can print off and tick as you go so you know what you did when and get to grips the frequency you need to do some things because you don’t need to do all the things all the time.
Beds changed weekly -i have a set day for high temp washes - so that’s bedding and towels. Bathroom day (worst day), spare room office and bedroom one day. Hall and lounge day. And finally kitchen day. Nothing takes the whole day and if you do it regularly you get quicker and it takes less work. all other washing gets done as we go when there’s a full load. I do find little and often is the best way to stop it getting overwhelming.

MuchTooTired · 27/01/2024 18:25

I could never get on with the organised mum method. My preferred website is https://www.unfuckyourhabitat.com/

the blitz the house section is excellent, it helps me to not obsess on one small thing like scrubbing the grout for example, and encourages me to focus on toning down the whole mess in stages whilst ensuring I get regular breaks. I’m pretty sure I have adhd so I really struggle with staying focused/not obsessed on something random.

Once the house is at an acceptable level overall, I find regular decluttering and doing small tasks that take 5-10 mins frequently helps me. Too much on my list of things to do and I get overwhelmed, so just saying to myself that I’ll unload/load the dishwasher whilst the kettle boils really helps as it’s a small manageable task.

For cleaning products I love dettol. For pretty much everything apart from the floor, I just use flash (or knock off) diluting floor cleaner. Fairy power spray is amazing for really fatty dirty stuff, and magic erasers are a god send if you have a kid like one of mine who colours where she shouldn’t/sticky finger print marks on wall etc. And harpic limescale remover (black bottle) for loos, whack it in and leave it for half an hour so minimal scrubbing.

Little and often is what works for me. My house is nowhere near show home level, providing I stick to my little and often it’s generally clean enough that I feel happy with it rather than overwhelmed and defeated.

Unfuck Your Habitat

You're better than your mess.

https://www.unfuckyourhabitat.com/

SummerDays2020 · 29/01/2024 15:16

Duckingfun · 26/01/2024 20:41

Thank you, honestly I’ve been so upset about it all. My daughter is nearly 2, I’ve been told she’s autistic, she suffered trauma in the womb, has had mris and scans and waiting on blood tests now (I was beaten up when heavily pregnant) she’s a bit overweight and the health visitor said it’s because she’s not walking yet and the social worker said it could be due to neglect. I’m not even sure how that makes sense but I’m trying to jump through every hoop and prove myself.

I just wanted to comment on this because I know a similar situation where mum was accused of neglect because their DC wasn't walking and the DC's SEN was ignored. If you haven't got one already ask for a SEN social worker so things can be put in place for your DC rather than nothing being done as the SW is putting it down to neglect. Good luck x

Duckingfun · 29/01/2024 17:50

SummerDays2020 · 29/01/2024 15:16

I just wanted to comment on this because I know a similar situation where mum was accused of neglect because their DC wasn't walking and the DC's SEN was ignored. If you haven't got one already ask for a SEN social worker so things can be put in place for your DC rather than nothing being done as the SW is putting it down to neglect. Good luck x

Thank you, I will do x

have done as pp suggested and had a major deep clean, declutter. Have come to the conclusion that the house is sometimes scruffy (bookshelves not neat, dd drew on the wall, cushions on the floor etc) rather than dirty. So I have been decluttering, organising, painting the walls and scrubbed everything from door handles to skirting boards to the smoke alarms 🙈
have a delivery this evening to solve storage problems, mainly for ds room so that’s my plan for tonight.

i just want to say thank you to you all again for being helpful and kind!

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SummerDays2020 · 02/02/2024 19:43

Well done, OP - that sounds brilliant!

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