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AIBU?

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To think she should look for work?

259 replies

Daisydoodo · 24/01/2024 23:35

my sister is on the migration from tax credits to universal credit. Her husband works and earns around £25k a year and does not aspire to earn anymore she has 6 children 3 over 16 and 3 5-16years she was complaining today that she may be expected to start looking for work when she migrates and how she thinks it’s unfair as she is only just getting her life back now the 5yo is in full time school. AIBU to tell her to get a grip and get a job? I feel awful for saying it but it’s getting on my nerves as I was expected to return after 6 months mat leave. Should the UC system force her to look for work

OP posts:
ElevenSeven · 25/01/2024 06:05

SaladDays2024 · 25/01/2024 02:13

I dont know how she could work with so many kids at home.
It's not her fault you had to work 6 months after your child birth.

Jesus.

Kalevala · 25/01/2024 06:09

SaladDays2024 · 25/01/2024 02:13

I dont know how she could work with so many kids at home.
It's not her fault you had to work 6 months after your child birth.

Three children under 16? Plenty of people work with three.

Beezknees · 25/01/2024 06:13

Mariposistaaa · 25/01/2024 02:43

Lazy bum should have been working years and years ago.

Looking after 6 kids is lazy?

Kalevala · 25/01/2024 06:13

As a start her partner could also pull his finger out and look to earn more than £25k or alternatively share childcare (as on that wages he's not working full time) so she can also work.

I earn less than that and I'm working full time. Why would you assume he wasn't?

Beezknees · 25/01/2024 06:13

Loads of posts about benefits popping up lately. Just an observation.

Beezknees · 25/01/2024 06:15

BreadInCaptivity · 25/01/2024 02:30

And in living that life has made a choice to have 6 children.

Her time to have children all of school age could have come (from the ages) over a decade ago had she had fewer children.

Choices and consequences.

Benefits are a safety net not a lifestyle choice.

As a start her partner could also pull his finger out and look to earn more than £25k or alternatively share childcare (as on that wages he's not working full time) so she can also work.

You're wrong. I work full time and earn £24.5k. Minumum wage is less than that.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/01/2024 06:15

Easy to say she should work but the cost of childcare is going to be problematic. The younger ones would need after school club and there isn't much of that either. There are not many 9-3 jobs available.

MRSMTO · 25/01/2024 06:16

WithACatLikeTread · 25/01/2024 06:15

Easy to say she should work but the cost of childcare is going to be problematic. The younger ones would need after school club and there isn't much of that either. There are not many 9-3 jobs available.

Could she not have thought about that before she had them then?

WithACatLikeTread · 25/01/2024 06:17

My husband works full time on less than that wage. He is a TA.

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 25/01/2024 06:46

WithACatLikeTread · 25/01/2024 06:15

Easy to say she should work but the cost of childcare is going to be problematic. The younger ones would need after school club and there isn't much of that either. There are not many 9-3 jobs available.

She could work evenings or weekends when DH is home, she has 4 kids 16 or over who could potentially help with school drop off or pick up, she could work 2 long days to reduce childcare requirements.

There are lots of options that don't rely on a school times /term time job.

Kalevala · 25/01/2024 06:50

When I was on tax credits I had to work at least 16 hours (I worked full time). That was as a single parent too, it would be easier in a couple as you could do evenings or weekends. I'd expect one parent to do full time and the other at least 16 and I'm surprised this isn't the requirement!

Ihaterhymingrabbit · 25/01/2024 06:55

Are those fake kids ages and salary amount? She’ll know this is about her if she reads mumsnet.

I say that as I don’t tell anyone I read mumsnet.

breakfastdinnerandtea · 25/01/2024 06:55

Kalevala · 25/01/2024 06:13

As a start her partner could also pull his finger out and look to earn more than £25k or alternatively share childcare (as on that wages he's not working full time) so she can also work.

I earn less than that and I'm working full time. Why would you assume he wasn't?

I was going to say this too. I know this is a bit of derailing but do people genuinely not realise what minimum wage x full time hours makes?
My husband is on £24k and works full time. I'm in a professional (degree qualified, registered profession) job and only earn £30k full time. It's times like this when I think I don't belong on this site!

Alcyoneus · 25/01/2024 07:10

She’s been popping out kids she could not afford, been paid to live for free by the taxpayer and now complains that she might have town to for a living for once in her a life. These pisstakers is why the public’s attitude has become so hardened to welfare.

Shortbreadfingerss · 25/01/2024 07:11

SisterSabotage · 25/01/2024 04:38

Lord, what a depressingly unambitious list.

What a snobby comment! Who do you propose does these jobs?!

maddiemookins16mum · 25/01/2024 07:23

How the hell have they afforded 6 kids.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/01/2024 07:23

Shortbreadfingerss · 25/01/2024 07:11

What a snobby comment! Who do you propose does these jobs?!

For all the criticism they get McDonald's is actually a very flexible explorer especially if you have kids.

2bumpsor3 · 25/01/2024 07:23

In answer to your question OP, I don't think you should say anything. What would it gain? The system is what it is and she will need to start looking for work. You hammering it home won't benefit anyone, there are people whose job it is to tell her to look for work

In regards to the overall theme of the thread, yes she is unreasonable to expect to never work and you feeling pissed off that she has had that time at home for all those years vs you returning to work at 6m post baby is not unreasonable, we all make our choices and there will be ways in life your more advantaged than she is I'm sure

Separately...25k is most certainly FT equivalent honestly makes me laugh,

We currently have a vacancy in my organisation Salary - 22,672
40 hours a week!

SisterSabotage · 25/01/2024 07:27

Shortbreadfingerss · 25/01/2024 07:11

What a snobby comment! Who do you propose does these jobs?!

Haha good try. You couldn't have come up with a lesser list. What's wrong with being a copywriter or a community lead or a housing worker? Why only servitude on the lowest rung?

Kalevala · 25/01/2024 07:33

SisterSabotage · 25/01/2024 07:27

Haha good try. You couldn't have come up with a lesser list. What's wrong with being a copywriter or a community lead or a housing worker? Why only servitude on the lowest rung?

Because she hasn't been on the ladder at all in decades?

Gettingbysomehow · 25/01/2024 07:34

SaladDays2024 · 25/01/2024 03:32

Her children will end up contributing to society, we need more children for all the expected elderly in care.

Really? Nobody wants to do that kind of work now. How do you know they will contribute anything at all. They will probably go on to have loads of kids and live on benefits themselves. People would rather stock shelves at Tesco than care for the elderly. It's hard work.

Agix · 25/01/2024 07:36

Reassured her that if her partners take home pay is more than £1050 per month, which it sounds like it is, she probably won't be obligated to work or really look. She'll have meetings with a work coach but her partner is earning above the threshold so they won't do much.

ohdamnitjanet · 25/01/2024 07:39

BreadInCaptivity · 25/01/2024 02:30

And in living that life has made a choice to have 6 children.

Her time to have children all of school age could have come (from the ages) over a decade ago had she had fewer children.

Choices and consequences.

Benefits are a safety net not a lifestyle choice.

As a start her partner could also pull his finger out and look to earn more than £25k or alternatively share childcare (as on that wages he's not working full time) so she can also work.

Full time on minimum wage is under £22k.

RampantIvy · 25/01/2024 07:48

YANBU.
She chose to have 6 children.

Gillypie23 · 25/01/2024 07:50

Your sister sounds like an entitled brat. She pushes out 6 kids and expects the tax payers to fund them, while she sits at home. People like her are what's wrong with society.

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