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Celebs that give you strange vibes

355 replies

Nightsgettingabitlighter · 23/01/2024 21:44

Sort of related to another thread trending about Woo feelings and vibes from people or places. Some people have mentioned celebrities, many people said Saville, even my mum said they all knew he was very strange.
Any other people?

OP posts:
KimKardassion · 24/01/2024 12:31

darkmodeera · 24/01/2024 12:27

The people named in this thread are in the majority NOT ND. Why try and make out this thread is having a go at ND people? Or are you inciting this as a reverse?

The things most of these names seem to have in common are: small dead eyes and fucking weird eyebrows.

Well some of them are then - Katie Price for example.
Others mentioned Kanye West - he is clearly mentally ill, has been for a long time and needs help.

KimKardassion · 24/01/2024 12:35

And Chris Packham.
Maybe we should be saying good for him for being successful despite having a disability, not saying he’s creepy.

darkmodeera · 24/01/2024 12:40

it's not libellous to say that someone gives you strange vibes, that's a personal feeling and a personal opinion which you are allowed to have and state. it may be libellous if you state a person's name and an actual act for which you have no proof of. As long as posters don't fall foul of that, all okay. Otherwise THE WHOLE OF THE INTERNET WOULD BE ARRESTED.

Ceebeegee · 24/01/2024 12:46

I get strange vibes from Lou Sanders. I can't explain why, but I get "mean girl" vibes and I don't like watching her on anything because it gives me a strange vibe like bumping into your school bully.
Same with Michael Buble, there's nothing really to substantiate it but I get strange vibes from them. To me, they seem very insincere and I remember watching a video of him and wife where the body language was very odd.

Watchthedoormat · 24/01/2024 12:51

James Martin the chef.
Michael Barrymore

SerafinasGoose · 24/01/2024 12:51

The other thread was a discussion of that immediate, visceral, primeval response hardwired into our species as a mechanism for our very survival. That's a different thing entirely to finding someone a bit creepy, or not particularly liking their energy or even them personally, as is mainly being talked about on this thread.

I've never had that terrifying, warning 'gut feeling' about anyone who hasn't been in my immediate presence. Which would make sense, because that's its function and it's a largely automatic response (like fight, flight or freeze). Seeing Jimmy Savile on TV was therefore never going to have the effect of setting warning klaxons off.

As for the ongoing conversation about Packham, perhaps Megan doesn't have a step father who can accompany her to her graduation. She does have one who travelled places with her, related to her, taught her photography and all he knew about wildlife, and gave her the gift of his time. Would that I'd had a father like that.

The guy is a good mentor, who encourages young people along their career paths in natural history, who visits universities to try to relate to autistic people, and who gives a young, non-verbal autistic man a voice on his programme and tries to show people what living with autism is like. Yes, he's impassioned and doesn't care a damn about others' disapproval, and it doesn't always make for popularity. Well, good for him.

He gives every impression of being a thoroughly decent human being. I don't understand the dislike for him at all (and the tune's certainly changed from earlier Mumsnet threads).

AinsleyHayes · 24/01/2024 12:52

darkmodeera · 24/01/2024 12:40

it's not libellous to say that someone gives you strange vibes, that's a personal feeling and a personal opinion which you are allowed to have and state. it may be libellous if you state a person's name and an actual act for which you have no proof of. As long as posters don't fall foul of that, all okay. Otherwise THE WHOLE OF THE INTERNET WOULD BE ARRESTED.

This relies on people knowing where the line is, and given that one pp has blithely declared that she trusts MNHQ to protect her privacy at all costs and therefore feels free to post with impunity, I don't think that is a given.

FKAT · 24/01/2024 13:49

I don't mind Chris Packham but I do think Barbara Rich's takedown of his crowdfunding is interesting.
https://x.com/BarbaraRich_law/status/1731713954244612424?s=20

Talking of legal takedowns I imagine MN have had their lawyers take a look at this thread and conclude that it's perfectly reasonable and fair comment to discuss how celebrities make you feel. The whole purpose of celebrity is to make the public feel or respond in some way. Something being mean, unpleasant or not 'nice' doesn't make it illegal.

https://x.com/BarbaraRich_law/status/1731713954244612424?s=20

Mistressofnone · 24/01/2024 13:57

I always feel uneasy hearing Mark Wright and Prince(ish) Harry refer to their wives in conversation as 'my wife' constantly. It feels possessive. Michelle Keegan and Meghan Markle are household names. Don't worry, we know you're married to them!

LooksLikeIPickedTheWrongWeekToQuitDrinking · 24/01/2024 14:02

FKAT · 24/01/2024 13:49

I don't mind Chris Packham but I do think Barbara Rich's takedown of his crowdfunding is interesting.
https://x.com/BarbaraRich_law/status/1731713954244612424?s=20

Talking of legal takedowns I imagine MN have had their lawyers take a look at this thread and conclude that it's perfectly reasonable and fair comment to discuss how celebrities make you feel. The whole purpose of celebrity is to make the public feel or respond in some way. Something being mean, unpleasant or not 'nice' doesn't make it illegal.

Lawyers are concerned with the law, not ethics. It's not their job to be the arbiters of fairness and reasonableness of threads, only the legality.

So this thread is not illegal.. so what? Doesn't mean it's OK. Threads are often deleted for being nasty, unpleasant and "not in the spirit"

SwimmingWorrier · 24/01/2024 14:50

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Why hasn't this been removed?

Fluffyfleece · 24/01/2024 14:56

Deathbyathousandcats · 23/01/2024 21:45

Walliams

Clicked on this thread from the title to say that 😆

PabloPawcasso · 24/01/2024 15:01

Ceebeegee · 24/01/2024 12:46

I get strange vibes from Lou Sanders. I can't explain why, but I get "mean girl" vibes and I don't like watching her on anything because it gives me a strange vibe like bumping into your school bully.
Same with Michael Buble, there's nothing really to substantiate it but I get strange vibes from them. To me, they seem very insincere and I remember watching a video of him and wife where the body language was very odd.

I’ve seen a video of him and his wife where he’s practically snarling at her!

PabloPawcasso · 24/01/2024 15:02

WhatWhereWho · 24/01/2024 12:02

That was exactly my point. Sorry probably did not express that clearly.

lol sorry, massively missed the point there

peakygold · 24/01/2024 15:04

Stephen Mulhern. He comes across as totally unpleasant and will do anything, or say anything, to get a laugh.

Crunchymum · 24/01/2024 15:08

To those of you who have reported, what did the response from MNHQ say?

SchmoozeyDoozey · 24/01/2024 15:24

Crunchymum · 24/01/2024 15:08

To those of you who have reported, what did the response from MNHQ say?

Hi there,
We will take another look now but on the face of it we aren't seeing that it breaks our guidelines. We accept that not all threads will be to everyone's tastes, which is why we have the 'hide thread' button.
Best,
Hope
MNHQ

tweedlledum · 24/01/2024 15:49

Everyone posting about bringing the thread down, you do realise you bump it with every post and everyone who already posted gets a flag that someone else has posted so they come back on? It's kind of how MN works....

FKAT · 24/01/2024 15:52

LooksLikeIPickedTheWrongWeekToQuitDrinking · 24/01/2024 14:02

Lawyers are concerned with the law, not ethics. It's not their job to be the arbiters of fairness and reasonableness of threads, only the legality.

So this thread is not illegal.. so what? Doesn't mean it's OK. Threads are often deleted for being nasty, unpleasant and "not in the spirit"

It was just in response to some posters saying 'how can MN let this stand - isn't it libellous?'

It's not that nice, but compared to some/most celebrity discussions out there on Tattle/Popbitch/Reddit/KF - it's positively restrained and polite.

Lurkingandlearning · 24/01/2024 15:57

Read somewhere recently that Ben affleck is fine- he just has a resting bitch face

MyCarHasBrokenDownAgain · 24/01/2024 16:13

Dr Christian Jessen. Makes me shudder. And not in a good way.

Dibilnik · 24/01/2024 16:30

Louis Theroux.

Ramalangadingdong · 24/01/2024 16:43

Like a pp I am so glad that I am not a celeb because I am pretty sure I would give someone somewhere “bad vibes”. If you were a celeb you would have to completely avoid sm. How do they do it? They must be so resilient.

Deathbyathousandcats · 24/01/2024 16:50

I was very happy to contribute to the Chris Packham’s fundraiser, just to see him take down some inbred forelock-tuggers. And he did.
Well done Chris!

porridgeisbae · 24/01/2024 17:20

Someone can be ND or mentally ill and still be a wrong'un. Just because someone happens to have a disability, doesn't mean they're automatically a saint incapable of doing anything wrong.

Kanye for instance is dodgy, partly as a result of his severe MH problems. It makes his beliefs eccentric and he has struggles to control his emotions. He is volatile. Not everyone with MH problems is volatile, but some are at least sometimes. I say this as someone with bipolar so I'm not particularly unduly prejudiced against someone with MH issues.

Katie Price- well I hope getting treatment for her ADHD helps her, but I don't see her suddenly stopping being Katie Price. :) ADHD is unlikely to be behind the entirety of her personality and past actions. It might work, it might make her worse if she carries on taking coke and just adds some ritalin into the mix. ADHD meds sent me high as a kite, I had to be locked up.