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AIBU?

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To ban my ignorant father-in-law from the house?

68 replies

Loofaa · 22/01/2024 13:58

My father-in-law is in his mid 70s and is extremely ignorant, and at times rude. There are many examples of behaviour outside of this situation that I have ‘let slide’, but I am at the end of my tether with regards to his comments about my neurodivergent son.

When I first met my husband, he repeatedly asked him what was ‘wrong’ with my son. My husband told him that there is nothing ‘wrong’ with him, he has ASD & ADHD, and whilst he struggles with social skills, he is brilliant at reading, maths, writing, is very kind etc. Despite this, he continues to use the terminology ‘wrong’ in private conversations with my husband.

Next, he was in our kitchen with my mother-in-law, and I overheard him referring to my son as strange. He didn’t think I heard the conversation, but I did.

Then, this past weekend, my son was watching TV in the living room, and I was sat with my father-in-law at the table in the same room. My father-in-law asked loudly if he’s educated with everyone else in his mainstream school or if he has to attend special needs classes. I told him that my son has no academic issues, in fact he is extremely clever despite his quirky social skills, so special needs classes wouldn’t be suitable for him. He then remarked that he was surprised! This was all in front of my son, who luckily was so absorbed in the TV that he didn’t notice the remarks.

My husband and I also have an 8 month old baby. On a few occasions now he has pretended to innocently ask if our baby is meeting his milestones. He does not ask these questions about other babies in the family. He’s obviously asking this because of my son. I’ve also noticed him ‘testing’ our baby for example checking his eye contact.

AIBU to tell my husband that his father isn’t welcome in our home unless he stops these remarks and behaviour?

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ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 22/01/2024 14:01

Surely your DH should sit down and discuss this with his father first before you ban him from your house completely. Sounds like he needs educating rather than banning.

Loofaa · 22/01/2024 14:09

@ImCamembertTheBigCheese My husband has had conversations with him (telling him to stop asking what’s wrong with him, for example), but he continues.

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Lurkingandlearning · 22/01/2024 14:58

Maybe if he brings it up again say

We’re not all the same. For example “son” is very polite whereas your manners are appalling

Loofaa · 22/01/2024 15:22

@Lurkingandlearning I like this. I’ve tried to be polite but firm, clearly he needs something more blunt!

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Willmafrockfit · 22/01/2024 15:26

just communicate with your FIL, openly and honestly

Willmafrockfit · 22/01/2024 15:26

is the diagnosis new?
were you given information from the hospital, perhaps you can share websites/information with your FIL

Loofaa · 22/01/2024 15:27

@Willmafrockfit No, the diagnosis is not new. I’ve tried to be polite but firm, my husband has also told him to stop referring to him as ‘wrong’, but he persists.

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arethereanyleftatall · 22/01/2024 15:31

I would say your loyalty is to your son. So, if you think hearing what your fil is saying about him will damage your son, then you need to do what you need to do to limit their contact.

NeedAnUpgrade · 22/01/2024 16:04

I wouldn’t blame you for not wanting him in your house. What does your DH think, will he back you up?
I’d be tempted to turn it round on FIL and ask why he’s so incapable of understanding that your son has ASD and why he feels he needs to be so rude about it.

LoopyLooooo · 22/01/2024 16:08

You haven't mentioned how your DH might feel about you asking him to ban his dad from the house?

Also, why wouldn't you ban him, rather than making your DH do it?

DuplicateUserName · 22/01/2024 16:10

How long has your FIL known your son?

Loofaa · 22/01/2024 16:11

@DuplicateUserName 3 years, I’ve been with DH for 4 years.

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Ponoka7 · 22/01/2024 16:13

His language is out of date and so is his knowledge. I'd be taking the opportunity to educate him. Previously children who have autism would be in special needs provision. If he's checking for signs of autism in your youngest,then he's obviously reading about it and that's a start. I think that your DH should build on it, but make it clear that some of what is happening stops. I'm never against questions being asked. But if they bother you then he can stick with asking your DH. How do they treat your son, like a GC? Were they equally generous towards him at Christmas? Does your DH agree to banning his father from your home?

Alwaysgoingforit · 22/01/2024 16:15

It really isn't your place to ban fil from your home, dh needs to do that if anyone does.
May be it's fil that has a sort memory problem he certainly lacks a filter. He definantly needs educating.

SparkleyMud · 22/01/2024 16:20

At least he's asking about him. There must be some sort of attempt on him to understand a bit more.

I don't believe that all this should be communicated by DH, you have a voice too.

Does FIL like to read? Maybe give him a book on Neurodiversity. Or print out a few info sheets on it and give them to him.

Daftasabroom · 22/01/2024 16:31

Does he know ND is genetic? Maybe very gently suggest he brushes up on his own social skills?

Witsend101 · 22/01/2024 16:38

Would it be worth checking with any local Asd/adhd charities if they run any courses for family members? Maybe something like that might help him understand. The other thing that crossed my mind is that sometimes ND can often run in families and some people find it confronting to see their own traits reflected in others, don't know if that could be the case with your FIL ?

AcrossthePond55 · 22/01/2024 16:57

@Loofaa

I don't know about an outright 'ban' from the house. I'd certainly discuss the possibility of limiting his time around both children unless he mends his ways with my DH. I'd also tell my DH that in future I will pull no punches in telling FiL that he is being rude and offensive. Then DH should have a very stern discussion with him about the words he uses and the questions he asks and the ramifications of not minding his mouth.

Updownleftandright · 22/01/2024 17:06

My mum suggested that my son might have autism because I didn't feed him entirely on vegetables and fruit (her diet) and dared to feed him pasta. I'd love to see all the research she's reading. 😂

LoopyLooooo · 22/01/2024 17:16

Daftasabroom · 22/01/2024 16:31

Does he know ND is genetic? Maybe very gently suggest he brushes up on his own social skills?

Edited

He's not the child's biological grandad.

Augustus40 · 22/01/2024 17:21

Unfortunately many people do not understand neurodivergence. Many do not realise it is genetic. Some also believe it is something they may grow out of!

SecondHandFurniture · 22/01/2024 17:27

I'm pretty sure he does know it's genetic as he's checking out whether the OP's second child has similar traits at 8 months!

I think I'd have to be blunt and say that your son is perfectly capable of hearing conversations about himself in other rooms, let alone in the same one, so any further comments will result in him being uninvited.

clpsmum · 22/01/2024 17:31

I only read the first two paragraphs and that was enough for me to be offended on your behalf. Ban him and cut him out of your life if your dh wants a relationship with him that's his business

AdoraBell · 22/01/2024 17:31

I would respond every time with “what’s wrong with you? Have you developed normally? Should you have gone a special needs school?” Do it every time like a broken record.

Katemax82 · 22/01/2024 20:17

many an argument ensued between my DH and FIL when our DD was born, we have an autistic DS who was 7 at the time. My FIL kept making comments like "see? shes not autistic" and shite like that, constantly acting as though we were on the edge of our seats waiting for the traits to show up.
now FIL is dead and our 5 year old DS who was 2 when FIL died is worse than my first son for his behaviours. Im just glad FIL isent able to comment on it

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