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To wish friends wouldn't invite other couple when we visit.

102 replies

rainonthewindows · 22/01/2024 13:09

We have some good friends we've known for years and get on really well with, they're really easy going like us, we have the same humour and can have a really good laugh as we don't take ourselves too seriously and can joke and banter.
However they have some other friends well call x&x who are really nice people but are very straight laced and serious and don't like to joke and banter so when they are there we have to be careful what we say because they're easily offended and don't swear or anything and I feel it really changes the ambience of the evening.
Our friends have invited us over this weekend and we've accepted, however I've seen friend this morning and she said they are really looking forward to seeing us this weekend and so are x&x who are coming too, to be honest my heart sank a bit as it won't be the fun evening I was expecting because I hadn't realised they'd be there and dh isn't bothered about going either now, I don't dislike them, they just aren't our sort of people, they're much more formal than we like to be.
Would it be really bad if we declined and said we'd prefer to see them when they aren't with x&x or is that just something you don't say?

OP posts:
Spirallingdownwards · 22/01/2024 15:55

ManateeFair · 22/01/2024 14:06

I would go but I wouldn't alter my behaviour in any way. If x&x are offended, then so be it. It isn't their house.

This ^

Just be yourselves. If x and x are so offended then next time they will decline.

frostyfeet · 22/01/2024 16:01

If the other couple really are looking forward to seeing you, maybe they don't mind how you behave? People are busy, it might suit the hosts to have more than one set of friends come over together - and it's their party, their choice of guests.

Urcheon · 22/01/2024 16:04

AnonymousMusing · 22/01/2024 15:52

It is one of my pet hates when friends do this (invite other friends who you don't know that well because it suits them to kill two birds with one stone).

I've declined invites due to this in the past, but I have framed it as "I don't really know X &Y that well, and as you and I don't get to catch up that often, I was really looking forward to a just us catch up. If it's not too much trouble, I would prefer that we reschedule this for an evening when you don't need to double book, if that's ok?"

It makes it clear that you don't really get on with the other couple without having to explicitly say so, as you're emphasising how much you were looking forward to catching up with just the couple who you are actually friends with.

Edited

But they’re not ‘double-booking’, which implies reserving the same hotel room or train seat for more than one person for the same night/journey, when only one person can occupy the room or seat.

The OP’s friends have simply invited her over at the same time as other friends, presumably because they like a mix of people, or want more people present.

The issue arises because the OP thought it was just them invited, whereas the hosts presumably had always conceived of it as an evening/dinner with more people present.

But it would be very strange to decline the invitation on the ground of ‘double-booking’, when it’s because she doesn’t like the other couple.

Oblomov23 · 22/01/2024 16:07

When she told you this morning, I would've just said "oh that's a shame because we both much prefer it when it's the 4 of us".

I don't get how people can just invite others, be it another friend, couple, their child, do casually. It changes the dynamic. It really hacks me off. If I wanted the other person there I would have suggested it!

Hildebrandthehog · 22/01/2024 16:08

LookItsMeAgain · 22/01/2024 15:45

Reply with
"Hi Ann & Bob, Thanks for the invite for drinks/food at the weekend. We are unfortunately going to have to take a rain-check on that for the moment. As we don't get on as well with Carol & Dan as you do, we'll arrange another night for just the 4 of us. Have a wonderful evening with Carol & Dan. All the best, @rainonthewindows & Mr rainonthewindows"

Each to their own but I definitely would not say that. It’s tantamount to saying “we loathe your friends” or “you have poor taste”.

Op your friends are probably using you as a buffer between them and their more straight-laced guests. Your presence makes the evening far more enjoyable for your hosts. As they are going to the trouble of hosting it’s something you might consider doing for your friend’s sake and to “earn your dinner” as it were?

blackpanth · 22/01/2024 16:09

Revelwithacause · 22/01/2024 13:17

You can’t control the guest list at someone’s house. Go, be yourselves and don’t change your behaviour for them. If they don’t like it they won’t attend the next time you are at their friend’s house.

This

IncompleteSenten · 22/01/2024 16:09

Tell them you've been looking forward to catching up with them so if they've made plans with this couple it's not a problem, you'll rearrange your visit. Just let you know when they're free for a catch up just with you.

Tinkerbyebye · 22/01/2024 16:10

I would go, but I would be myself so if x&x don’t like it tough

then I would invite your friends only to yours one evening so they can see how much better it is without x&x

Fionaville · 22/01/2024 16:14

I just wouldn't change myself around x&x It's an evening, you're grown ups, just be yourself. If they don't like it they will refuse the next group invite, so win win.
I've actually got friends who are outrageous in their humour, swearing and crude etc. And other friends who are very reserved and straight laced. I enjoy both types of company, but I wouldn't necessarily mix them socially. Your friend must think your humours and personalites are suited, so doesn't expect you to behave differently.

frostyfeet · 22/01/2024 16:19

LookItsMeAgain · 22/01/2024 15:45

Reply with
"Hi Ann & Bob, Thanks for the invite for drinks/food at the weekend. We are unfortunately going to have to take a rain-check on that for the moment. As we don't get on as well with Carol & Dan as you do, we'll arrange another night for just the 4 of us. Have a wonderful evening with Carol & Dan. All the best, @rainonthewindows & Mr rainonthewindows"

I think it would be really rude to be negative about your friend's friends, and their choice to invite you all. Just make an excuse, and invite Ann and Bob over by themselves for another time.

justanotherusername22 · 22/01/2024 16:27

hellojelly · 22/01/2024 13:12

Just say it. The worst that can happen is they're offended, but equally they've invited you and not been open about who else they've invited which is a bit offhand as well, so it evens out in my opinion.

I agree. People need to learn to be more direct........

Stupidliefromfriend · 22/01/2024 16:34

Who are you to dictate the rest of the guestlist in somebody else's house? If you want it to be a foursome, you clean your house, organise food, drinks and invite the 'fun' couple over. I would find you rude as hell if i was the hosts and never invite you again. Unbelievable.

TheDevilGun · 22/01/2024 16:38

Stupidliefromfriend · 22/01/2024 16:34

Who are you to dictate the rest of the guestlist in somebody else's house? If you want it to be a foursome, you clean your house, organise food, drinks and invite the 'fun' couple over. I would find you rude as hell if i was the hosts and never invite you again. Unbelievable.

The hosts should have mentioned at the time of invitation that the other couple were coming, I'd also be miffed if I was OP and probably would decide not to go

WhatNoRaisins · 22/01/2024 16:41

Ideally you make it clear when you invite, would you like to come over for pizza? Vs I'm having some people over for pizza if you'd like to come. Then everyone can do what suits them or not.

In defence of the double booking, I've got friends I often see as groups. If as individuals they started only wanting one on one time then realistically some of them would end up fading out of my social life. There's only so much time.

WaltzingWaters · 22/01/2024 16:50

I wouldn’t say you don’t want to go because of x&x, but I would just be myself when there. Hopefully then the next time you’re both invited x&x say “nah, they’re a bit too much for us!”. Then invite just your friends to yours next time, where you can control the guest list.

Pinkdelight3 · 22/01/2024 17:57

When she told you this morning, I would've just said "oh that's a shame because we both much prefer it when it's the 4 of us"

This is good. Focus on just wanting to see them, then it's positive. Bigger numbers changes the level of conversation regardless of liking the other guests so it's not offensive to say you just want the four of you.

Hildebrandthehog · 22/01/2024 18:02

Stupidliefromfriend · 22/01/2024 16:34

Who are you to dictate the rest of the guestlist in somebody else's house? If you want it to be a foursome, you clean your house, organise food, drinks and invite the 'fun' couple over. I would find you rude as hell if i was the hosts and never invite you again. Unbelievable.

I have to say that I agree. If you want it to be different then you need to host yourself. And it’s very rude to not show or try and skip out of the dinner if you’ve already accepted an invitation.

I also agree that the host should have let you know whose coming when she invited you but sometimes a host has to juggle people around a bit owing to different circumstances, such as another date not being possible, or friends driving through on holiday, and as a guest you have to be gracious about it.

otherwayup · 22/01/2024 18:07

Anyone else's toes curling at the reference to 'jokes and banter'? 😳

I generally find that people who describe themselves as having a 'great sense of humour' or 'being a laugh' are the total opposite.
I feel more sorry for the other couple, they probably sit there cringing and prefer their friends when you're not there 😂

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 22/01/2024 18:13

Get x&x drunk and just be yourselves. If they don't like it they won't come next time....problem solved!

coxesorangepippin · 22/01/2024 18:13

Bil and sil do this

It makes me feel like our company isn't enough

Terrribletwos · 22/01/2024 18:17

Wondering what this banter is? Have sometimes found that someone's "banter"is quite often just not that at all.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 22/01/2024 18:17

Go and be your usual selves and with any luck these other people won’t want to be invited next time you are.

SiobhanSharpe · 22/01/2024 18:34

beetr00 · 22/01/2024 13:49

you are not being, at the least, unreasonable @rainonthewindows

Inviting any others changes the dynamic, totally.

Why do people do this? Am perplexed.

So many seem to think it's acceptable! Whyyyy?

The host couple are killing two birds with one stone, IME.
They invite their good friends couple A, then remember they 'owe' a dinner or similar to the boring old Xs and think, I know, we'll ask them along with the As, we'll be fulfilling our obligations and it will probably won't be as bad as it usually is when it's just the Xs.
Very lazy, and you run the risk of everyone having a shit time anyway. I have friends who do this. (And I'm not sure whether we'd be the As or the Xs...)

InDeepWater · 22/01/2024 18:38

Perhaps they find X&X more interesting company. Tbh you sound shallow. As my DH says, it's always noisiest at the shallow end.

Fairylightfurore · 22/01/2024 18:49

Go, be yourselves and don't adjust your behaviour. The other couple can then choose to turn down the invitation next time they're invited. I do understand though op. We have mutual friends we like to see on their own and they're constantly trying to invite another couple we know and don't particularly want to see. I think my friend thinks she's doing is a favour reconnecting us with old friends but we haven't kept in touch for a reason!

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