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School demanding packed meals for 18 hr bus trip

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Snoopmummy · 19/01/2024 17:09

DC is off on a school trip involving an 18 hour coach journey. School is demanding we drop children off in the evening having fed them (fine), equipped with nut free snacks (makes sense). We have also been asked to provide TWO meals: a packed breakfast and a packed lunch.

That means breakfast will be consumed 13 hours after they set off and lunch will be something like 17 hours later. Is there any food that can safely last for that length of time in an insulated bag or flask? DC does not like dried fruit or cereal bars.

AIBU to consider asking for the risk assessment over this and suggesting we equip them with money to get food on the way as they will need to stop anyway?!

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IlsSortLaPlupartAuNuitMostly · 21/01/2024 12:17

Mywhoopdeedoo · 21/01/2024 11:32

That bit at the top that says it's OK is within the EU. From outside the EU into the EU if you scroll down is an absolute no no, though in practice the chances of them checking a coachful of kids' lunchboxes are negligible to nil.

Overthehillbutnotveryfar · 21/01/2024 12:18

Just to add - as others have pointed out and now I’ve thought about it - a whole bus load of kids are unlikely to have their sarnies confiscated 😂😂😂😂. It happened to a van driver in front of us at the ferry …. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:21

or a ring pull tin of baked beans - or rice pudding and a spoon !

I've heard it all. Don't worry about the risk assessment of eating out of a sharp edged CAN on a moving vehicle .

Nothing a " sandwich " doesn't fix though.

IlsSortLaPlupartAuNuitMostly · 21/01/2024 12:21

People going on holiday with a caravan / camper van sometimes get a full check, but that's because they're checking for commercial smuggling. If they find something illegal while they're looking then they'll confiscate it, however trivial.

dapsnotplimsolls · 21/01/2024 12:26

IlsSortLaPlupartAuNuitMostly · 21/01/2024 12:17

That bit at the top that says it's OK is within the EU. From outside the EU into the EU if you scroll down is an absolute no no, though in practice the chances of them checking a coachful of kids' lunchboxes are negligible to nil.

Exactly. It's highly unlikely that they will check but they might. When I ran a trip last year, I told the kids and the parents about this. If they wanted to bring cheese sarnies, they had to eat them before Dover. And no, I didn't do a check before we got to Dover, I was too busy sorting out passports!

myrtleWilson · 21/01/2024 12:29

I'm amused that the OP got herself tied up in knots about the health and safety implications of a sweaty cheese sandwich but seemed okay (by her own definition) with a single driver completing an 18hr trip as long as he had 60mins off a service station...

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:30

After they open your lunch box and confiscate the sandwich, do they shoot you or just take you for questioning?

No wonder there's queues.

dapsnotplimsolls · 21/01/2024 12:33

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:30

After they open your lunch box and confiscate the sandwich, do they shoot you or just take you for questioning?

No wonder there's queues.

Scroll down on the link already posted.

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:34

Scroll down on the link already posted.

water boarding?

dapsnotplimsolls · 21/01/2024 12:35

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:34

Scroll down on the link already posted.

water boarding?

Rack.

tinytemper66 · 21/01/2024 12:50

I am taking 40 kids skiing to Europe at half term. I will be taking myself many things that the OP would be horrified by. We will also be stopping at service stations and they can buy their own. We are not telling the kids anything other than to eat before they get on bus as it is an early morning departure.
We chose the bus option as it was cheaper but we have had a mare organising it and it would have been easier to pay more and gone to USA. Thankfully our parents seem well balanced and haven't questioned any of our rules etc...

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:02

Hikers take their own risk, but if a child had food poisoning from the instructions of the school who are supposed to abide by strict health and safety rules to protect children, I'm sure there could be a lawsuit.

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:04

What kind of a school trip would involve an 18 hour coach trip anyway?

saraclara · 21/01/2024 13:09

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:02

Hikers take their own risk, but if a child had food poisoning from the instructions of the school who are supposed to abide by strict health and safety rules to protect children, I'm sure there could be a lawsuit.

The school has simply asked for packed lunches/meals. The parents are the ones who take responsibility for what they feed their children.

There is no health and safety issue on the school's side. As many many posts on this thread have demonstrated, there are any number of combinations of foods that will present no risk at all.

Mywhoopdeedoo · 21/01/2024 13:13

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:04

What kind of a school trip would involve an 18 hour coach trip anyway?

France, Germany, ski trips, music trips, battlefields, I’ve done 30 hours to Poland in the past
I presume you have zero experience of these trips ?

Mywhoopdeedoo · 21/01/2024 13:14

Anyway, think I might apply to border force, baby bel confiscation sub division, there’s clearly lots of work 👍🏻

kisstheblarney · 21/01/2024 13:14

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:02

Hikers take their own risk, but if a child had food poisoning from the instructions of the school who are supposed to abide by strict health and safety rules to protect children, I'm sure there could be a lawsuit.

Oh FFS!

The instructions of the school? You give your child what YOU want to give them, give them stuff that won't cause an issue? Stop being so litigious and keep your child home.

graceinspace999 · 21/01/2024 13:14

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:17

The dairy issue is huge as all their cheese sarnies will be confiscated !

By the CHEESE SLICE inspection team at Dover. 👍🏻

😂

Mywhoopdeedoo · 21/01/2024 13:19

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:02

Hikers take their own risk, but if a child had food poisoning from the instructions of the school who are supposed to abide by strict health and safety rules to protect children, I'm sure there could be a lawsuit.

And they wonder why teachers are refusing to do trips ???? Jesus fucking Christ

Mistymist · 21/01/2024 13:21

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 12:03

Shall we get onto DVTs now?

😅

graceinspace999 · 21/01/2024 13:29

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 20/01/2024 23:36

You can buy Army ration packs online or from some camping shops. No need to refrigerate or cook. Could also be bartered for goods / services once they arrive at the destination.

‘bartered for goods/services one they arrive at the destination.’

Are they travelling to a bunker for the end of the world?

As if the poor mum hasn’t got enough to worry about what with the cheese police and impending malnutrition.

Seriously, I somehow survived many school trips with two pieces of hovis and marg - a hard boiled egg, wrapped in the hovis wrapper, plus a banana.

butelass · 21/01/2024 13:31

SusieLawson · 21/01/2024 13:04

What kind of a school trip would involve an 18 hour coach trip anyway?

Many coach trips to Europe that don't start in the south east of England!

My worst one was 28h one way, as we hit problem traffic en route from Scotland to south coast of France. I really can't remember what we did about food, but I am fairly sure it was kids bringing stuff as we stopped at aires rather than anywhere with much in the way of services.

Glad to see the OP already realised complaining or hassling teachers for their packed lunch risk assessment was one of the most glaringly unreasonable suggestions I've seen on here.

Babybel inspectors 😂

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 13:40

What kind of a school trip would involve an 18 hour coach trip anyway?

Dear me.

Sluggy1967 · 21/01/2024 13:40

I’ve worked in a school. If you had any idea of the pages and pages of risk assessments they have to go through, let alone the time involved in creating them, you would understand that there is no need to do one for parents who don’t have the imagination to think up a suitable packed meal for their child. Be grateful that your school are
providing school trips because believe me, they are unbelievably stressful for the staff.

sunglassesonthetable · 21/01/2024 13:41

Hikers take their own risk, but if a child had food poisoning from the instructions of the school who are supposed to abide by strict health and safety rules to protect children, I'm sure there could be a lawsuit.

You're taking the piss now. We're talking tubes of Pringles not seafood on ice.