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Dd shouted and hit me

112 replies

Ffswhatshappenednow · 18/01/2024 16:28

How would you deal with this?

Dd, 5.5 is generally a very sweet, fun and bright girl, but often finds her hard to control her temper.
We’ve just had a nice time making brownies, sat down with hot chocolate and read stories. All was fine until she saw i
was drinking out of her cup (she’s not normally territorial or fixed on certain things) we both recently bought new cups with dogs on and said only for us to use (bit of a joke as Dh uses all the cups and loses them)
Dds and I new cups are v similar, I was drinking from hers by mistake. She just completely blew up, shouted and hit me.

Ive just switched off the show she wanted to watch and said no more tv and she’s got more upset and said she doesn’t like me anymore and wants me to stay at work forever when I go (saying unkind things is fairly new too)

Is this all normal behaviour?

How would you deal with it?

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Noicant · 18/01/2024 19:04

DD loses something like TV for a day for behaviour like hitting. Generally we are pretty laidback parents but DD is a very strong personality and needs firm boundaries around hitting specifically (she’s a lovely cheerful kid but has a temper) It has massively reduced negative behaviour. But I warned her of the consequences in advance so she knows what the deal is so it’s fair.

CurlewKate · 18/01/2024 19:05

Did you quickly apologise for using her mug? That might have diffused the situation before it started.

Mumof2NDers · 18/01/2024 19:18

I think you handled it perfectly. I would thank her for her apology and move on.

Noicant · 18/01/2024 19:20

I think the key is regardless of how you feel you don’t hit. Thats the lesson I’m trying to teach my DC, I get angry but I don’t hit people, kids need to understand that. Object loudly by all means but hitting is crossing a line.

Secondstart1001 · 18/01/2024 19:58

Please put a stop to it … I’m talking from experience and I didn’t manage it well. She’s 17 now and she’s bite me, hit me and bruised me pretty badly at her worst and can be abusive if she doesn’t get her own way.

Ffswhatshappenednow · 18/01/2024 22:12

@Nestofwalnuts Reading that approach just made me feel really uncomfortable 😳

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Ffswhatshappenednow · 18/01/2024 22:12

@Noicant Yes, that’s exactly what I said

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Ffswhatshappenednow · 18/01/2024 22:14

@CurlewKate I didn’t get much chance as she reacted so quickly and I hadn’t even realised I had picked up her cup (both ours were next to each other and v similar with a dog on) After she’d calmed I said it was an accident as I hadn’t even realised it was hers, I didn’t apologise because at that point I was so angry about her reaction

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goodkidsmaadhouse · 18/01/2024 22:17

@Nestofwalnuts That was horrible to read and shows a total lack of understanding of child brain development.

OP I think you handled it just fine. I wouldn’t stress about it any further. Regardless of what PPs say, a lot of 5 year olds lash out now and then. I work with this age group and I can tell you that the ones who actually come to school and lash out are NOT the ones whose parents are disciplining them with boundaries and love, which is what sounds like you’ve done here.

NeedToChangeName · 18/01/2024 22:20

Alwaysalwayscold · 18/01/2024 16:54

Nobody on here will agree but I am a very strong believer in teaching to hit back. I want my kids to know from an early age that if you take it upon yourself to hit someone then they can/will hit back. Same applies if someone hits them they are within their rights to defend their self.

I would give a tap on the wrist.

Oh wow, I am surprised that in 2024, people are still advocating hitting children

@Alwaysalwayscold would you support a man hitting his partner if he felt she was out of line?

DyslexicPoster · 18/01/2024 22:22

My kids who blow up have SEN so this might help you but....

Think of the fire triangle. If you feel she is escalating. Remove the oxygen. If this carry on, I'm going to stop talking to you until you calm down, I'm not saying anymore now until your calm. Then totally ignore her until she is calm.

Then once she is calm, give her food and a drink then do the " when you did x it made me feel y. What was going on in your head / what was you thinking"

Obviously no good in a sudden lashing out of course. I just don't argue with my kids.

rainbowsparkle28 · 18/01/2024 22:28

Mariposistaaa · 18/01/2024 17:23

Straight to bed and any parties she was going to at the weekend cancelled. Horrible behaviour.

🙄 At that age she is not going to see the connection with something that happens days later to her behaviour right now so is pointless other than just upsetting everybody. As others have said a clear management of it at the moment it happens with appropriate consequence like they have done will be more effective.

SprogTakesAQuarry · 18/01/2024 22:31

CoffeeMachineNewbie · 18/01/2024 16:40

I'd tell her she hurt me, it made me sad and that it is totally unacceptable behaviour.

I of course still love her but because of what she has done I dont want to play with her this evening so she needs to play in her room until bedtime and that the mugs and hot chocolate are going away for a week. Daddy can play with her and she can obviously come down for tea.

She can have her mug back next week, as long as she doesnt hit you or behave that way in the mean time.

Edited

This advice is so upsetting.

Bookist · 18/01/2024 22:32

Nestofwalnuts · 18/01/2024 17:55

I would be very cross without raising my voice. In a calm, controlled voice, get down to her level, look her in the eye and say: Mummy loves you, Mummy bought you that mug, made you that hot chocolate, helped you make brownies, read you that story.All day long, I was doing lovely things with you because I love you and you repay me by hitting me? How dare you be so rude and cruel to someone who shows you love?

And that is a real question, not a rhetorical one. Make her answer it. How dare she be so cruel and rude? What was going on? Help her process it. Stay firm: "I was being a tiger' 'No, that's an excuse.' 'Sorry mummy' 'Thank you for your apology but it doesn't answer my question. How dare you be so rude and cruel? Why do you think you have the right to hurt people who love you? I love you. Do I have the right to hurt you if I want to? How would you feel if I did?'

Again, not rhetorical questions. Make her answer them.
End the discussion by asking, 'You didn't like me drinking from your cup. What could you have done to stop me, that isn't cruel and rude?'
This encourages her to process ways to handle anger in an appropriate way.

Finally, some kids get sugar rage. Brownies and hot choc aged 5 could lead to a blood sugar spike that causes anger. Tell her this and tell her you both need to watch out how she feels when she has sugar.

Edited

WTAF? No. No. No. Wrong on every level and deeply disturbing to even just read.

goodkidsmaadhouse · 18/01/2024 22:34

@Alwaysalwayscold So how does that finish? You hit them back. But you’ve taught them it’s ok to hit back. So they hit you back. So you hit them back. So…

I honestly can’t think of a more inappropriate method of discipline than doing to your child exactly what you are teaching them NOT to do.

Also it’s thankfully illegal where I live.

Nestofwalnuts · 18/01/2024 22:39

Bookist · 18/01/2024 22:32

WTAF? No. No. No. Wrong on every level and deeply disturbing to even just read.

If you say so. I would never be dismissive of aggression my children. I would always challenge bad behaviour. They were the most chilled, kind teens - never rude or abusive, never mean to others. Teach them emotional intelligence. Ye sit shocks them the first (and only) time you need to do it. I've challenged school bullies like that too and it stops them.

I wonder why you find it disturbing.

Noseybookworm · 18/01/2024 22:39

Yes it's normal and she needs to learn that this is not acceptable behaviour. At age 5, consequences need to be immediate. I would send her to her room/naughty step and expect an apology for hitting mummy. Then draw a line under it and move on!

JaninaDuszejko · 18/01/2024 22:55

Alwaysalwayscold · 18/01/2024 16:59

And?

We all think we know everything about parenting before we have kids. Hitting a child is NEVER acceptable. Hopefully you will learn that very soon.

Mayorq · 18/01/2024 22:57

"I would be very cross without raising my voice. In a calm, controlled voice, get down to her level, look her in the eye and say: Mummy loves you, Mummy bought you that mug, made you that hot chocolate, helped you make brownies, read you that story.All day long, I was doing lovely things with you because I love you and you repay me by hitting me? How dare you be so rude and cruel to someone who shows you love?

And that is a real question, not a rhetorical one. Make her answer it. How dare she be so cruel and rude? What was going on? Help her process it. Stay firm: "I was being a tiger' 'No, that's an excuse.' 'Sorry mummy' 'Thank you for your apology but it doesn't answer my question. How dare you be so rude and cruel? Why do you think you have the right to hurt people who love you? I love you. Do I have the right to hurt you if I want to? How would you feel if I did?'"

You thick fucking psychopath 😂😂😂😂

kirinm · 18/01/2024 22:59

We are experiencing some really trying behaviour from our 5 year old too. I'm hoping it's an age thing - I know we aren't the only ones,

Frangipanyoul8r · 18/01/2024 23:03

We just sent ours straight to their bedrooms for hitting. They’d cool off for a few minutes and then we’d go in and acknowledge their feelings but reaffirm that we don’t hit.

It seems to have worked for my two who are totally different personalities.

WhatIsHeThinking · 18/01/2024 23:03

Nestofwalnuts · 18/01/2024 17:55

I would be very cross without raising my voice. In a calm, controlled voice, get down to her level, look her in the eye and say: Mummy loves you, Mummy bought you that mug, made you that hot chocolate, helped you make brownies, read you that story.All day long, I was doing lovely things with you because I love you and you repay me by hitting me? How dare you be so rude and cruel to someone who shows you love?

And that is a real question, not a rhetorical one. Make her answer it. How dare she be so cruel and rude? What was going on? Help her process it. Stay firm: "I was being a tiger' 'No, that's an excuse.' 'Sorry mummy' 'Thank you for your apology but it doesn't answer my question. How dare you be so rude and cruel? Why do you think you have the right to hurt people who love you? I love you. Do I have the right to hurt you if I want to? How would you feel if I did?'

Again, not rhetorical questions. Make her answer them.
End the discussion by asking, 'You didn't like me drinking from your cup. What could you have done to stop me, that isn't cruel and rude?'
This encourages her to process ways to handle anger in an appropriate way.

Finally, some kids get sugar rage. Brownies and hot choc aged 5 could lead to a blood sugar spike that causes anger. Tell her this and tell her you both need to watch out how she feels when she has sugar.

Edited

This is far too much for a child that age to process and verbalise. This very bad, and quite chilling, advice.

OP you handled it well. It’s not acceptable and you’ve made that clear.

Frangipanyoul8r · 18/01/2024 23:06

@Alwaysalwayscold please read some parenting books. Parenting young children is about modelling good behaviour. Absolutely no decent parenting technique recommends modelling bad behaviour back to a child!

You will be hit as a parent while your child learns. I shudder to think why a 2 year old would need hitting back. That’s shocking.

rainbowsparkle28 · 18/01/2024 23:16

Nestofwalnuts · 18/01/2024 17:55

I would be very cross without raising my voice. In a calm, controlled voice, get down to her level, look her in the eye and say: Mummy loves you, Mummy bought you that mug, made you that hot chocolate, helped you make brownies, read you that story.All day long, I was doing lovely things with you because I love you and you repay me by hitting me? How dare you be so rude and cruel to someone who shows you love?

And that is a real question, not a rhetorical one. Make her answer it. How dare she be so cruel and rude? What was going on? Help her process it. Stay firm: "I was being a tiger' 'No, that's an excuse.' 'Sorry mummy' 'Thank you for your apology but it doesn't answer my question. How dare you be so rude and cruel? Why do you think you have the right to hurt people who love you? I love you. Do I have the right to hurt you if I want to? How would you feel if I did?'

Again, not rhetorical questions. Make her answer them.
End the discussion by asking, 'You didn't like me drinking from your cup. What could you have done to stop me, that isn't cruel and rude?'
This encourages her to process ways to handle anger in an appropriate way.

Finally, some kids get sugar rage. Brownies and hot choc aged 5 could lead to a blood sugar spike that causes anger. Tell her this and tell her you both need to watch out how she feels when she has sugar.

Edited

Words fail me. Just wow 😔 So shaming and being emotionally cruel is your advice then right? Not to mention manipulative that your child 'owes' you for the things you do for her which any parent/carer should do. Guessing you never possibly made a mistake as a five year old 🙄 And just to be clear absolutely this behaviour is not okay and children need clear firm boundaries for sure. But not like this.

Toptotoe · 18/01/2024 23:26

When she has calmed down, I would mention it to her and say something like ' you seemed very angry when I accidentally used your cup - why was that?' It will be a good opportunity to have a chat with her . It maybe that something was triggered by you using her cup.
It will also be a good opportunity to remind her that we all make mistakes sometimes and that she will too sometimes and we have to learn to understand that these things happen and can't go hitting people in these situations as there will be consequences.