To think it's no wonder people fly tip?

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Recycling day today - I put my bin out, along with a big cardboard box from a delivery that I'd flattened. It was too big to go in the bin, and thick cardboard which I couldn't break down. It's been left by the road, along with a bag of recycling from a neighbour who is waiting for a new bin. There's more cardboard been left across the street - looks like a microwave box that's filled with cans, judging by the few around it.

It's so frustrating - all of it could have been taken and recycled but now there's plastic bottles, cans and cardboard scattered all over the street! Can't get a skip appointment for love nor money so what are people meant to do?

My cardboard is going to work with me tomorrow - the house has an open fire so it'll be burned which I hate but there's nowhere to store it and it won't fit in the bin, especially not with another two weeks' recycling!

No wonder people resort to fly tipping when it feels so impossible to get rid of stuff through the waste collection!

Stanley knife, cut it up into bits. Put the bits in the recycling bin and push it down so the lid shuts? I'd never leave anything on the floor alongside my bin to be collected, because they simply won't take it.

There's no excuse for fly tipping. We teach our kids not to litter, what's fly tipping if it's not on a larger scale that adults have chosen to do? There are ways to go about disposal of anything.

If dustmen forget it /don't have space on their truck, then email council and politely ask that they return asap.

They're never going to do a dedicated journey to get a cardboard box. 😂 If they did, the environmental impact would be waaay worse than just fly tipping the box. I did a few days on the dustcarts over lockdown to help my local council - I still have a valid HGV license and they were struggling with domestic waste with so many people being at home.

I was averaging 5mpg and sometimes 2mpg when going uphill with a few tons on. Absolutely chugging through the diesel. 😳

Soak any cardboard with water and it will squidge down.

They won't take soaking wet cardboard!

You just put it under something else. It'll be fine when it dries out in the bays. Only unusable if soaked in fat or juice etc.

I am really surprised to learn this about wet cardboard. Where I live we have to put cardboard in an open box. Everyone puts it out the evening before. If it rains (common obvs in UK!) then everyone’s cardboard is wet. Thousands of houses worth. The entire lorry full of wet cardboard.

We do this. They always take it apart from the day it froze solid,

As for tips, they’re a nightmare in our city. Our nearest one is about 8 miles away and rammed all the time. The queues to get in are horrific. They were so bad in covid that they were issuing parking tickets for people queuing to get in!

I did a recycling round for Biffa for three years and loved chucking on wet cardboard. It made me look like I'd been twice as busy when I pulled onto the weighbridge at the end of my shift!

Id say let it soak and put in bin under normal recycling they won't see.

Our tip is appointments too its a right PITA! Especially this time of year shorter hours and its closed when finish work.
Weekends are fully booked until mid Feb

I'd recommend a good quality Stanley knife. We cut up really thick cardboard at work with them 🙂

That said, the majority was contained within the 1100L wheelie bins and dry (sometimes you had to also chuck on the pile next to the container if a 'site clearance' had been authorised, usually due to a missed collection).

I figured the wet stuff would dry out amongst all the dry stuff. Big piles of waste generate heat which is why we kept having the bays catch fire in the summer.

We have to book appointments round here too. And take ID and proof of address when you go.

Plain vans can register online and pay £150 a year for up to 12 visits to the tip.
No sign written vans full stop. Even if it's household waste completely unconnected to the business. That includes hire vans like enterprise vans too. So you cannot take bulky items to the tip.

Bulky waste council collections are booked solid for 8 weeks. You can't book more than 8 weeks in advance.

All the local recycling points get filled really quickly.

Our recycling boxes dont have lids but are supposed to be collected weekly.

I have been naughty and ordered a second set of boxes so I can usually get rid of everything but it's not easy. And they leave anything that doesn't fit inside the box.

I really don’t and can’t understand why lazy slobs fly tip. No excuse.

if this is a challenge people can’t overcome then they need to toughen up! Too many excuses given these days for selfish lazy behaviour

Yes, I totally get it. Don't worry, I know you weren't suggesting actually fly-tipping.

Our local tip charges £2.50 PER ITEM taken to the tip. It's a fucking joke.

Not allowed to go on foot or in a van.

We all complained when they started charging because we knew there would be an increase in fly-tipping (which I despise), and what do you know, fly-tipping everywhere. It's a disgrace.

Fortunately, our bin men do take extra recycling. About twice a year we end up with extra recycling, we leave it next to our bin in the hope that they take it and they always have to date. I'd imagine it we did it every time, we'd probably get a note.

So what would you do in my situation?

Small flat with no private outside space. Recycling bin full. No tip appointments. Council won't take the bin if its full of wet card.

What would you do?

I hear you op .
Not everyone has a car to get to the tip. Not everyone can manage the mental load of recycling on top of everything else due to poor mental health or other challenges in life .

They could have picked it up, it's ridiculous

It amazes me that people sit with their charmed life (a functioning tip is having a charmed life these days) and their functioning car, with their functioning bins and if they're lucky enough a nice garage and private garden and cannot fathom for a second that someone who has none of these would struggle to legally and responsibly get rid of waste

Bin services that wont take certain types of rubbish (ie wet cardboard, card left by the bin, open lidded bin etc)
Tips that you can only drive to and need your car reg to book the appointment
Tips that are fully booked/minimal opening hours
Local mini recycling areas that dont have full facilities but that you also need a car to get to (at the local bins I take our cardboard to, we wouldnt be able to get rid of the item OP talks about because the bin has a letter box slot for it to go into, they are always full up anyway and I wouldnt have the strength to do all the cutting up that people are describing)
Local taxi firms that wont take you with rubbish and recycling

So you book someone to take your items and risk that they are not legitimate, particularly if you cant afford to pay full price

Its a disgrace

You get yourself a Stanley knife and cut the big boxes up.

You said yourself that you own a Stanley knife but you've given it to your sister. Problem solved! It's really not complicated.

It is frustrating that so many people don’t appear to have read your posts or understand what you were saying. Of course you are not wanting to fly-tip.

You are expressing frustration at an impossible system. It is pretty easy to see the issues that you are facing.

I am not sure why so many are struggling with this. And the usual race to the bottom posters are out.

No, she is not. You need to improve your skills of comprehension.

Someone really needs to suggest a Stanley knife. No poster has mentioned it yet.

They just need to keep excess waste in their back garden until it's the next bin day. I report neighbours for dumping their crap on the path for days as they can't be bothered to deal with it.

We still need tip appointments here. It does work well because when it's too busy the queue blocks a roundabout. The town has got bigger but the infrastructure hasn't.

This is astounding me too! I'm not in the UK, but ours is open seven days a week and you go whenever you want within opening hours.