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Have I been a cf friend

87 replies

Tinseltiss · 17/01/2024 12:37

My best friend had 5 boyfriends last year the last one she got with in December and stays with her and her 2 under 2s every night since they met online. I made a comment and now everyone has turned against me saying I was skating her parenting. I actually think she’s an amazing mum but she doesn’t know this guy it’s not even been a month since they met. Should I have not said anything and am I cf I just want her children to be happy she says she’s a better mum but I was abused as a child and think a month is no where near enough time

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Mummyoflittledragon · 17/01/2024 13:41

bombardelli · 17/01/2024 13:25

Depressing that women don't learn from the cases of Baby P, Star Hobson, Daniel Pelka, Ayesha Ali, Arthur Labinjo-Hughes that moving in a partner into the home so early on is a huge risk to their child.

A study analysed British child homicide data and reported that stepfathers were over 100 times more likely to beat their young children to death than were biological fathers.

Gosh, I haven’t read that stat in the link as it’s rather long.. but that’s staggering. You did the right thing op in telling her. Sadly there isn’t much you can do.

tuvamoodyson · 17/01/2024 13:42

You HONESTLY believe she’s an amazing mum!? What exactly does she do that makes her ‘amazing?’

saraclara · 17/01/2024 13:44

KrisAkabusi · 17/01/2024 13:01

I wouldn't be critical of somebody in a message like that. That's the sort of thing needs to be said in person so that you can explain yourself and get some nuance across. Otherwise it just comes across like you sent a message saying "You're a shit mum". I can see why she's upset.

That's just what I was about to post. A message is a terrible way to say something like this.

If you wanted to address something like that, it needs to be done tactfully, face to face, at the right time and place, and with the help of tone of voice, facial expression and body language.

You have no idea where she was when she got that message.

I was once sent a message like that. It was absolutely dreadful, and caused a stress reaction that made it impossible for me to deal with it rationally. I just immediately felt threatened, defensive and angry. I'm still not over it years later.
Had that person been chatting with me over coffee and brought the subject up in a more natural and gentle way, at a pertinent point in our general conversation, I might have actually taken what she said on board. But she took the coward's way, and the message came through to me at the worst possible moment.

Dweetfidilove · 17/01/2024 13:44

Just to reiterate that she is a poor excuse for a parent.

I hope she goes off and introspects before she damages those poor children.

Caspershumandad · 17/01/2024 13:45

Unless you have evidence that the men are a risk to the children or her, she is in charge of her own family's safeguarding. For reference: NHS Level 3 courses for Safeguarding children or adults (I have taken them). If you do, you would be in a legal obligation to call an emergency service, either police or ambulance, as you do when you see anyone who could be a risk to themselves or others.
For reference mothers are, unless deprived legally, the main parent who can give consent for children medical treatment (if the child agrees too), the father cannot if they are not married. 16-18 years old can consent to, say, a Covid vaccination.

Lulalola · 17/01/2024 13:46

EdinGirl · 17/01/2024 12:39

I would say something and she's not an amazing mum.

An amazing mum protects their child and she isn't doing this.

Simple.

Just because he may not end up abusing them, doesn't mean the emotional impact of a revolving door of men isn't incredibly traumatic for the children.

As usual, the first post nails everything that needs to be said

Tilllly · 17/01/2024 13:47

Of course, she is upset. You have said something she didn't want to hear, but that she knows is true.

2jacqi · 17/01/2024 13:47

@Tinseltiss there is a name for women like her!!!

ConciseQueen · 17/01/2024 13:51

Sleazy sleazy and dangerous sleazy

Blondebutnotlegally · 17/01/2024 13:55

JaffaCake24 · 17/01/2024 13:36

Sex with five different random men. Come on. That’s desperate not having fun.

The fact she’s moved someone in so quickly shows she’s just sleeping with someone to love her, not sleeping with someone for just sex.

She doesn’t want to be alone and she just keeps giving her body away for free over and over again.

How she’s had time to have sex five times, let alone with five different men with two under two, I’m really not sure.

This is not slut shaming. I’m saying have sex with someone who is worth it, not someone who promises they love you tonight, then never see them again.

Sex with a stranger can be great. It can be fun, empowering.

But five times in a row? She shows no sign of being empowered. She just looks desperate for love and she’s giving her body away to losers.

If anything this behaviour will make her feel even more rubbish about herself.

Stop focusing on the sex. Sex with 5 different men is fine. Not for you, but fine for other people.

The moving in comments i agree with. The sex ones are horrendously judgemental

Parentofeanda · 17/01/2024 13:57

No way, your definitely not wrong. Its wrong to bring in men to meet your kids when you dont even know him!! He could be a child molester or abuser OBVIOUSLY he still could after a long time but its more likely to happen if you have men coming in every few months or being allowed to move right on in after a month.

Alohapotato · 17/01/2024 13:59

EdinGirl · 17/01/2024 12:39

I would say something and she's not an amazing mum.

An amazing mum protects their child and she isn't doing this.

Simple.

Just because he may not end up abusing them, doesn't mean the emotional impact of a revolving door of men isn't incredibly traumatic for the children.

this

nosleepforme · 17/01/2024 14:00

The way you did it is appalling. In that context! That was just not thoughtful at all.
if you were truly concerned you would have brought it up appropriately in person, not just a throw away text in the middle of a conversation randomly out of the blue.

MermaidEyes · 17/01/2024 14:04

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Yes I was thinking this, although to be fair there are plenty of women like this around.

BubbleBubbleBubbleBubblePop · 17/01/2024 14:05

She's not an amazing mum, she's a shit mum.

LifeExperience · 17/01/2024 14:05

You weren't wrong. Your friend is a crap mum and is putting her children at risk for a shag. Deep down she knows this hence her reaction.

tiggergoesbounce · 17/01/2024 14:09

Of course you are not wrong. I am the same, i need to say the truth when it comes to bad choices that effect or can potentially effect or damage kids.

When your other friend rang saying you had really upset your other friend, what did she say, does she agree at letting the new fella stay over or just thinks you should not have voiced an opinion ?

falafelover · 17/01/2024 14:09

MermaidEyes · 17/01/2024 14:04

Yes I was thinking this, although to be fair there are plenty of women like this around.

But too many people think we 'mustn't judge'.

slashlover · 17/01/2024 14:12

2jacqi · 17/01/2024 13:47

@Tinseltiss there is a name for women like her!!!

Which would be...?

a222 · 17/01/2024 14:12

JaffaCake24 · 17/01/2024 12:44

Your friend needs counselling. Five boyfriends in a year… I take it that meant she slept with them all?

She’s suffering from low self esteem and thinks that the love from a man can “fix” her.

She needs to learn to love herself first or else she won’t have any boundaries- which is currently self-evident by her behaviour.

Desperate is the word I would use. Desperate to be loved. Desperate to feel of some use to someone. How tragic.

She will just be used again and again until she learns that she must have boundaries and not set her standards so low. Sex is not love.

sleeping with five men in a year does not require counselling.

a222 · 17/01/2024 14:13

she needs to be careful, there’s men who go after women with young children purely to gain access to the children…argh.

LordSnot · 17/01/2024 14:26

Caspershumandad · 17/01/2024 13:45

Unless you have evidence that the men are a risk to the children or her, she is in charge of her own family's safeguarding. For reference: NHS Level 3 courses for Safeguarding children or adults (I have taken them). If you do, you would be in a legal obligation to call an emergency service, either police or ambulance, as you do when you see anyone who could be a risk to themselves or others.
For reference mothers are, unless deprived legally, the main parent who can give consent for children medical treatment (if the child agrees too), the father cannot if they are not married. 16-18 years old can consent to, say, a Covid vaccination.

This is what you've applied to this thread from your "level 3" course?

Ask for more training.

Foxblue · 17/01/2024 14:29

Setting aside the issue at hand...

Anyone else on this thread amused to find out that having sex with 5 men in a year is outrageous harlot behaviour that means you are desperate for love?

Wasn't aware I could 'give my body away', as far as I've checked, mines still attached...

JaffaCake24 · 17/01/2024 16:26

And STIs hit an all time high in 2023.

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