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Bloody reborn doll

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Horriblescareydolls · 17/01/2024 00:53

My sister has collected dolls for while now and has always gone with ones from around the world. She has recently started on reborn which are hyper real dolls that look like real babies. I find it creepy they but each to their own. She has started wandering about with the fucking doll in a baby pram, I met her for lunch and assumed when she came in with a pram that due was babysitting a friends baby, she doesn't have a baby herself. On closer inspection there is a bloody reborn doll with a bloody dummy in its gob. I couldn't stay when she took the damn thing out to hold and walked away. She said that "reborn community " are used to mockery and why can't I just be happy for her. I told her because she is a grown woman pushing a dolly in a pram and its fucking weird. She wants to bring it to family parties......I can't cope!!!!Thoughts anyone?

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CorylusAgain · 19/01/2024 08:42

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 19/01/2024 08:39

We have no problem accepting that pets provide support and aid wellbeing. Reborn dolls fulfill a similar role for others.

I think that's fine, up to the point where others are expected to go along with the idea that the doll is real. OP being asked to wish the doll happy birthday, for example. Is it aiding well-being to require others to join in the fiction?

Have you not read threads where posters describe exactly that from some pet owning friends and relatives?

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 19/01/2024 08:46

@CorylusAgain but dogs have birthdays. Yes it's weird to ask friends to wish their dogs happy birthday, but the birthdays do exist. The dog was born.
I am the exact opposite of a dog lover, and absolutely roll my eyes at some dog owners, but it's not the same as a birthday for an inanimate object.

snowmobileon · 19/01/2024 08:50

FlamingoQueen · 19/01/2024 07:23

I’m a bit of a bitch at times, so if that was my sister, next time I met her I would have a Barbie doll in a baby carrier attached to my front!!

(Unless she had mh issues, which I would obviously be sympathetic to and not do the above)

OP please do his 😂

CorylusAgain · 19/01/2024 08:51

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 19/01/2024 08:46

@CorylusAgain but dogs have birthdays. Yes it's weird to ask friends to wish their dogs happy birthday, but the birthdays do exist. The dog was born.
I am the exact opposite of a dog lover, and absolutely roll my eyes at some dog owners, but it's not the same as a birthday for an inanimate object.

And no one has to comply, either with the pet or reborn birthday. I'm not saying that.
I'm just asking people to stop making sweeping judgements about people with reborns.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/01/2024 08:58

Are the reborn-as-a-crutch-for-mental-health people fine with men having those “anatomically accurate” woman dolls ?

Fulfil a similar function, right ?

Tortoise2go · 19/01/2024 09:03

They are so lifelike it's scary. I was shopping recently and was horrified when a young woman chucked one from a front pack on the floor whist she tried on shoes.
There's been police incidents where they have mistaken them for real babies and smashed windows or called in homicide teams. One was discarded in a park in NY and police treated it as an actual infant death for 3 hours as paramedics couldn't find a heartbeat .
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/18/nyregion/dead-baby-doll-park-queens.html

Whiskyinajar · 19/01/2024 09:07

I have a reborn doll made by a friend, it represents my son as a baby and is dressed in his first outfit.

I would never take the doll out in a pram though.

My friend is an artist and these dolls are among many items she creates. Tbh I don't think if have bothered with it otherwise.

As for those who take them out etc, each to their own I guess.

Naptrappedmummy · 19/01/2024 09:09

CorylusAgain · 19/01/2024 08:38

Do you have the same level of hostility to pet owners, @Naptrappedmummy ? Their impact is far greater than the tiny number of reborn owners. Pets foul pavements and other peoples gardens, cause allergies that need medication, they impact on the environment and contribute to global warming ...

I'm just suggesting that people stop for a moment and consider their reactions.

No because they’re sentient beings that we share the earth with and have been around millions of years. HTH.

CorylusAgain · 19/01/2024 09:16

Naptrappedmummy · 19/01/2024 09:09

No because they’re sentient beings that we share the earth with and have been around millions of years. HTH.

I asked about pet owners.
The act of keeping an animal purely for comfort is both recent and culturally dependent. Not millions of years old nor a universal practice across the world.
I understand that for you keeping an animal makes more sense because it's a living creature.
Owning a reborn makes more sense to others.

edissa · 19/01/2024 09:17

Haven't read the full thread so apologies if I've missed it.

OP, does your sister have a history of infertility or pregnancy loss? Yes, on the surface carrying dolls around as an adult woman is odd behaviour. But is it an attempt to cope with something more deep seated? Have you asked her?

mamboshirt · 19/01/2024 09:24

DC1888 · 19/01/2024 02:18

Agree with this.

She's harming nobody, and obviously finds it enjoyable/therapeutic.

Well , she sort of is. Making your sister pretend your rubber dolly is a baby is bloody awful really.

badwolf82 · 19/01/2024 09:28

Jengnr · 19/01/2024 08:19

The ‘reborn community’ sound just like the ‘real doll’ community of creepy men. And yes, those men take their dolls to places and on dates and to meet up with other dolls.

I can almost understand why women have those dolls to deal with trauma but what happens after, say, 12 months? The dolls aren’t going to become toddlers. The trauma still needs to be addressed and they’ve spent a year taking this doll out like it was a baby, it’s not going in a cupboard is it?

People keep saying it’s therapeutic but the only evidence I can find is for the use of these dolls in dementia and for children with autism. I can’t imagine that any legitimate psychologist or psychiatrist would prescribe this for a woman suffering from infertility or loss. It seems incredibly unhealthy to encourage pretending rather than dealing with reality, however awful reality may be.

WhatNoRaisins · 19/01/2024 09:28

My two cents.

Dumping a re-born on unsuspecting people and expecting them to just go along with a fantasy that it's a baby is bad idea whether it's family or a stranger on the bus. Even if it's for mental health support these people haven't chosen to be your therapists.

Keep them at home or at re-born events. If you need help and support with your mental health you seek it from appropriate places.

Nonomono · 19/01/2024 09:42

I do think it’s unacceptable to do in public.

We wouldn’t accept kids over a certain age bringing their toys into school, so why does your sister need to bring her doll around other people.

Its got to be attention seeking.

If it helps her then that’s great but it’s something that she needs to keep private and it would annoy me that she’s doing it for the attention, rather than it helping her.

Nonomono · 19/01/2024 09:43

WhatNoRaisins · 19/01/2024 09:28

My two cents.

Dumping a re-born on unsuspecting people and expecting them to just go along with a fantasy that it's a baby is bad idea whether it's family or a stranger on the bus. Even if it's for mental health support these people haven't chosen to be your therapists.

Keep them at home or at re-born events. If you need help and support with your mental health you seek it from appropriate places.

This is exactly how I feel but you have worded it in a much better way.

AliceA2021 · 19/01/2024 09:48

Sounds like mental illness. No children of her own. Did she really want and unable or lost children. If she joins a community of similar people she might convince herself that the baby is real.

CorylusAgain · 19/01/2024 09:57

Since when has been acceptable for people to dictate that other people should not bring harmless items out of their homes?

FuckBalledTwattyPiss · 19/01/2024 10:04

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/01/2024 04:01

I hand-reared several Tamagotchi and spent months of my life doing it, so I can't really judge her.

That's a bit embarrassing, yes, but presumably you were thirteen at the time?

gardenfoundry · 19/01/2024 10:06

YANBU, OP.

Rorlaa · 19/01/2024 10:14

There are already so many worse thing we are pressured to accept as normal. I would just assume she has problems with managing her maternal urges in a socially acceptable way like babysitting for relatives/ building work carrier...

Skeldale · 19/01/2024 10:15

IkeaMeatballGravy · 17/01/2024 04:08

I hope she didn't take public transport and I hope there were other tables available at the restaurant for mums with prams. I used to see a woman get on the bus with a doll in a hard to fold pram. She would sit there while mums struggled or waited for the next bus. I was fuming when I found out it was a doll, by all means have one but don't let your hobby get in the way of real babies who need the space.

I saw this just the other day. Rural bus, so there wasn't another one to catch, a girl sat with her reborn and her impossible to fold pram whilst a mother with a baby in a pram and a toddler got on - she very nearly had to get off as there was barely any room for both of them. The new mother who got on was thanking the girl profusely for budging up a bit - I just wanted to say - her baby isn't real!

kingtamponthefurred · 19/01/2024 10:19

VampireWeekday · 19/01/2024 00:16

I completely disagree with your last sentence. I don't think most normal people would choose to leave their babies at home, what would be the point of having kids if you didn't want to spend time with them?

If they had an OFF switch, I'm pretty sure most of us would choose to press it now and then.

ImNotReallySpartacus · 19/01/2024 10:24

When did the word 'community' stop meaning 'all of us' and start meaning 'group of weirdos forced to band together because nobody else wants to be around them'?

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 19/01/2024 10:33

Having seen 2 teenage girls with reborns at a doll show I think there is definitely learnt attention seeking behaviour going on which is not healthy. It’s like “I have joined this community so I have to act like this to be accepted into it. “
Yes some of the owners definitely have MH issues and do need help . But having a doll like this and behaving in this way does not help.

MyopicBunny · 19/01/2024 10:36

It's completely weird and most people who do this are unhinged. There is a woman in my town who does it and she is a criminal and a pathological liar. She gets on the bus with her doll in a pram and refuses to move for people who get on with real human babies / children. And she posts TikTok's of herself breastfeeding a reborn doll.

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