To think my mother should put me above Church and praying now and again

[fairyfly]

Actually writing that down i probably am being dreadfully unreasonable as it is a sin to put others before God i think.

I am just sulking as i wanted her to babysit and she said, nope, i will be in church praying for you instead. Sanctimonious sod.

ff, she is def loopy.

my mum is pretty devout (Irish convent boarding school upbringing, the whole works). If i have a "discussion" with her about any religious matter, i am being "argumentative or disrespectful" so i don't bother anymore.

She wouldn't miss Maundy Thursday/Good Friday/Easter services unless there was a dire family emergency - so it might be that this Thursday is just non negotiable for your mum. But the other stuff - prayer room/candle/hell/pilgrimages. Not normal...

Oh it's a very difficult argument to have because it's really easy to answer, well you don't have faith that is as devout as mine, and leave me speechless.

I'm glad it's not normal, i was beginning to think i was evil or something.

(She buys me books about purgatory and i never ever read them)

I had an Irish convent boarding school upbringing but I did form the opinion at 17 that I had been fed a load of rubbish and I've never bought anyone a book on purgatory! I do think some people have an obsessive nature and if they're religious, the religion itself is what feeds that nature. If they weren't religious, they'd obsess over something else. No matter what conversation you start with MIL, she always manages to bring the subject round to religion and is very offensive about anyone who doesn't conform to her ideal.

Well i think bombarding someone with it puts them off and people who try and convert should understand that. Scaring the shit out of them isn't going to do it. I am not going to buy into fear, lifes hard enough.

( What did girlfrommars say, you ok?)

She sounds like a complete nutcase FF. Religion is like any other hobby: keeps some people happy and can even make them more socially positive ie kind and helpful - but for some people it seems to be all about making a farking nuisance of yourself babbling bullshit and being unkind.

Yup fine
Just mentioned something that I shouldn't have about my family. My Mum is hyper private and wouldn't have appreciated it, so I asked MNHQ to delete it

Basically said that I am a very lapsed Catholic, and that my parents are Catholic, but never lecture or try to push that onto me now I'm an adult. They wouln't let DP and I share a bed in their home until we got married (their turf, their rules) but never said a negative word about us living together.

Some people are very judgemental, and they can use religion as a justification for that.

Firefly, you need to learn a few useful quotes from the Bible to silence your mother

eg "Cast not the first stone"
and other stuff about "not removing the mote from some one else's eye before removing the beam that is in your own". Is that a laser beam, I ask myself?
"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; render unto God that which is God's"
"Suffer the little children to come unto me"
and
"bog off you vicious old harridan"

The list goes on.

And you could ask her who the most elastic man in the Bible is. I forget his name but he's the one who tied his ass to a tree and walked to Jericho.

I do not think it a grandmother's duty to provide babysitting on demand, but I know how it feels when people refuse to do kind things on religious grounds. Like when my cousin's wife refused to come to my father's funeral because she was praying elsewhere. After all, she'd only known him just under 50 years and he had lent them money when they needed it.

I could have a fag sticking out of my mouth and work at a Launderette too.

Could you live with the hair though?

Absolutely, i look like shit as it is at the moment. The bit straight after a reltionship where you don't really care what you look like. Shortly, hopefully, i will be in the radiant phase.

When i say radiant phase, i don't mean pregnant. Just thought i wold clear that one up.

You just need to exfoliate and let your inner radiance out!

I know!!!!! What should i use though? fourty quid stuff that is actually sand and salt in oil?

this is just what you said, but at £5.99. It really works, but is probably a bit harsh for delicate skin. It also doesn't smell quite as good as the body butter they do called 'The righteous butter' that is gorgeous (and came out really well in the 'How To Look Good Naked' tv programme product testing.
You would have to hide them from your mother though, as the whole range is called 'Soap & Glory' and she might think they're a bit blasphemous.
The shower cream has 'Cleanliness is essential when Godliness is improbable' written on the side.

This is the one my sister has used for years. It's probably a better choice for more sensitive skin, as it's a lot less abrasive. It is £16.50 for 250ml.

It also won't upset your mother