Has there always been incel alphas or is this new?

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Specifically the mentality Not the terms.

i just don’t recall even 5 years ago the internet being such a dark dark place for misogyny. I follow a few parody accounts online (unexpectedlyfun for instance) and just the things these ‘alpha’ males say…Did this mentality always exist but just the promise of Andrew Tate and then TikTok make it far more prominent?

I’m mid 30s and whilst obviously misogyny is not a new phenomenon but the sheer venom of these guys, how the basically advocate grooming, abuse etc I don’t recall the internet and social media being this dire?

OP

Re language

I'm old so I wondered if I had missed something, hence the questions about language. One of my relatives is an academic and wrote a paper, maybe 20 years ago, about how this problem was going to seem a lot worse with the advance of social media.

Men hating women is not new. When I was at school, the "joke" was that wife = washing, ironing, fucking, etc. And the girls were expected to laugh at it.

I don't think it's become worse. I think you can see it more now.

Should’ve put a slash

incels/ ‘alphas’ but to me the discourse of both sounds very very similar, the ‘alpha’ appeals to the incel the incel mimics the ‘alpha’ etc etc