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Please tell me this can't be true!

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JaffaCake70 · 15/01/2024 16:12

My Mum visited this afternoon, we were talking about wills and things that the departed have left in trust for their loved ones. During the course of the conversation Mum told me the following:

When my Grandmother passed away a few years ago at the age of 82, my Mum's older Sister wanted her wedding ring (for sentimental reasons).

When my Auntie went to collect the ring the undertakers gave it to her and told her that it had been stuck on my Nanna's finger so tight that they had cut her finger off in order to retrieve the ring.

I feel sick. Please please please tell me that this can't possibly be true? Has anyone else had experience of anything like this? I just can't believe it's true.. but if it's not true why would my Auntie, who isn't one for making things up, say it is?

OP posts:
AnneValentine · 16/01/2024 16:03

notafruit · 16/01/2024 14:34

FFS No.
I went to collect the ring. I asked how he'd got it off her finger, as the ring is small, and she had put on a considerable amount of weight since she married, and the ring always looked tight on her finger. The undertaker told me that he'd had to remove her finger, and made a snipping action with his fingers. He's was a family friend and knew there was no love lost between me and MIL so didn't have to be as respectful as he would be with normal clients.

Absolutely nonsense. Best case he was joking. But that isn’t how they remove them.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:06

notafruit · 16/01/2024 12:22

No, that's not what I wrote. I said twice that I went.
BIL asked me to go to the undertakers. I went and the undertaker told me he'd removed MIL's finger to get the ring off. I don't know if the undertaker asked permission first.

I got a phone call from my brother in law. A grabby step relative was making noises about getting the ring, so he rang the undertaker, who he happened to be good friends with, and asked him to get the ring off, and sent me to get it.
Honestly I wasn't overly fond of mother in law, but was intrigued as to how he got the ring off so quickly without damaging it. He told me that in some cases, this being one of them, they have to cut off a finger. This was 20 years ago so times have probably changed a bit.
But it's quite true.
As brother in law never married or had any children himself, he asked DH to pass the ring on to our daughter. She doesn't want it, so it's currently stuck in a drawer

So why give us such detail about you hearing about it from your BIL rather than now it emerges you heard it yourself in person direct from the undertaker? 🤔

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:12

The undertaker told me that he'd had to remove her finger, and made a snipping action with his fingers.

and yet your initial recounting was all about you hearing from your BIL.

Now the story done a 180.

i love it!

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:24

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:12

The undertaker told me that he'd had to remove her finger, and made a snipping action with his fingers.

and yet your initial recounting was all about you hearing from your BIL.

Now the story done a 180.

i love it!

You have ishoos @spearthatbroc Confused

There's no 180. Read @notafruit 's posts properly. The bil told her the ring needed to be collected that is all.

Heather37231 · 16/01/2024 16:27

notafruit · 16/01/2024 14:34

FFS No.
I went to collect the ring. I asked how he'd got it off her finger, as the ring is small, and she had put on a considerable amount of weight since she married, and the ring always looked tight on her finger. The undertaker told me that he'd had to remove her finger, and made a snipping action with his fingers. He's was a family friend and knew there was no love lost between me and MIL so didn't have to be as respectful as he would be with normal clients.

I suspect he told you the ring was cut and you heard what you wanted to hear, given the relationship.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:28

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:24

You have ishoos @spearthatbroc Confused

There's no 180. Read @notafruit 's posts properly. The bil told her the ring needed to be collected that is all.

yep.
But off not to say

“so i did, and the undertaker directly told me that he’d chopped off her finger”

but nope. she ended the story with just her BIL telling her this. 🤷‍♀️

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:31

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:28

yep.
But off not to say

“so i did, and the undertaker directly told me that he’d chopped off her finger”

but nope. she ended the story with just her BIL telling her this. 🤷‍♀️

Where??

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:36

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:31

Where??

head. wall. bang.

why don’t you just go back and read the post that you are so staunchly defending.

Where does the poster write or even remotely allude to hearing the the fingers was lipped by direct, in person, from the undertaker. No where! It is all “my bil told me over the phone”

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:39

it’s like saying

“Peter told me that film was really shite and said don’t bother going to see it”

and then it later emerging later on after much discussion about the film

“I have seen the film and i think it’s really shite and don’t bother going”

delamore · 16/01/2024 16:44

@spearthatbroc

“I asked the undertaker how he managed to get it off, and he said he cut her finger off. They do it all the time, but don't tend to advertise the fact.”

From @notafruit’s first post. HTH.

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:46

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:36

head. wall. bang.

why don’t you just go back and read the post that you are so staunchly defending.

Where does the poster write or even remotely allude to hearing the the fingers was lipped by direct, in person, from the undertaker. No where! It is all “my bil told me over the phone”

Why don't you read it? All of @notafruit 's posts.

I'll wait..

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:47

😂

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:48

yes that’s the blimmin point!

Her first point - it’s all about hearing it second hand from her BIL

only when skepticism expressed does it later emerge that she heard this direct from the undertake in person! 🤔

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:51

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:48

yes that’s the blimmin point!

Her first point - it’s all about hearing it second hand from her BIL

only when skepticism expressed does it later emerge that she heard this direct from the undertake in person! 🤔

🤦🏻‍♀️

Read. The. Fucking. Post.

Her bil called her to collect the ring.

The undertaker told her that the finger was cut. Nobody else.

Heather37231 · 16/01/2024 16:53

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:51

🤦🏻‍♀️

Read. The. Fucking. Post.

Her bil called her to collect the ring.

The undertaker told her that the finger was cut. Nobody else.

You’re getting your “he” confused @spearthatbroc

here’s what the post said:

he rang the undertaker, who he happened to be good friends with, and asked him to get the ring off, and sent me to get it.

——
Honestly I wasn't overly fond of mother in law, but was intrigued as to how he got the ring off so quickly without damaging it. He told me that in some cases, this being one of them, they have to cut off a finger.

“He” above the line I’ve inserted refers to the BIL.

“He” below the line refers to the undertaker.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:54

So why is the story not

**i went to the undertaker and he said they’d cut the finger off”

instead very long post about hearing it from her BIL!! Not once mentioning or alluding to hearing it herself directly from the undertaker!!

Heather37231 · 16/01/2024 16:55

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:54

So why is the story not

**i went to the undertaker and he said they’d cut the finger off”

instead very long post about hearing it from her BIL!! Not once mentioning or alluding to hearing it herself directly from the undertaker!!

Read my post above.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:55

She is referring to her BIl and she follows up with As brother in law never married or had any children himself, he asked DH to pass the ring on to our daughter.

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:56

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:54

So why is the story not

**i went to the undertaker and he said they’d cut the finger off”

instead very long post about hearing it from her BIL!! Not once mentioning or alluding to hearing it herself directly from the undertaker!!

But your first bit is what the post says!!

TripleDaisySummer · 16/01/2024 16:57

notafruit · 15/01/2024 17:59

This is true!
I had to get my mother in laws wedding ring from the undertakers. She was much bigger than when she got married and hadn't taken it of for many years.
I asked the undertaker how he managed to get it off, and he said he cut her finger off. They do it all the time, but don't tend to advertise the fact.
The ring was completely undamaged, so it definitely wasn't cut off her finger.

This seems to be the first post Yesterday 17:59.

The second one is first to mention BIL and getting a phone call Yesterday 18:54.

I asked the undertaker how he managed to get it off, and he said he cut her finger off.

TBF Noafruit did say she asked the undertaker - I suspect it was black humour or very poor practise at that time - and several people working in industry have clearly said it's not done now and wouldn't have been acceptable for decades (if ever).

Heather37231 · 16/01/2024 16:58

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:55

She is referring to her BIl and she follows up with As brother in law never married or had any children himself, he asked DH to pass the ring on to our daughter.

She re-introduces BIL using his full title there. She does that precisely because there was a different “he” in the preceding paragraph so she could not just say “he”.

Dis you miss the bit where she says BIL sent her to the undertaker? Why would BIL have known how the ring came off when he didn’t speak to the undertaker? And why would OP have asked BIL when the undertaker was right there to ask?

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:59

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 16:56

But your first bit is what the post says!!

no it doesn’t!!

I got a phone call from my brother in law

is the “first bit of the post”

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 17:00

Heather37231 · 16/01/2024 16:58

She re-introduces BIL using his full title there. She does that precisely because there was a different “he” in the preceding paragraph so she could not just say “he”.

Dis you miss the bit where she says BIL sent her to the undertaker? Why would BIL have known how the ring came off when he didn’t speak to the undertaker? And why would OP have asked BIL when the undertaker was right there to ask?

why on earth would you go in to such detail about a phone call heating something from someone second hand

when you could say

“i once went to an undertaker in person. and heard direct from the undertaker himself that he’s chopped off the finger!”

MassiveOvaryaction · 16/01/2024 17:00

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:59

no it doesn’t!!

I got a phone call from my brother in law

is the “first bit of the post”

Fuck sake. Finish reading the sentence. He asks her to collect the ring. He does not say how the ring was removed.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse now.

Heather37231 · 16/01/2024 17:00

Yes, while I will defend @notafruit’s description of who did what to whom, I still believe that she was either told a lie by the undertaker, it was a bad joke or she misinterpreted what he said.

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